What class needs the most attention

[Kinlaien]

Definitely druids. I know not many people play druids, but we definitely need all the help we can get. I've played all of the green servers and some of the white ones, and this one is in the top 5 as far as trying to help us out (some nice clickies on quested armor, the bot helps immensely with solo play), but maybe a little more help would straighten us out. I"m not asking to heal like a cleric, or nuke like a wizard, but right now the only half decent heal I have takes 10 seconds to go off...10 seconds. Anyone that has ever played a healer can tell you that 10 seconds is an eternity...it can mean the difference in group wiping and group success...we won't even go over how that affects soloing or duoing with the bot, especially considering since it's not the most miraculous spell anyhow. As far as nukes and dots...the cast times are tolerable on those, but the nukes are a little on the weak side, and assuming people know how to stack their dots, isn't the best means of damage. I only have a nuke memmed because I actively try to work on evoc, as my 2 best dots are conjuration. We're not down the tube by any means or anything, but maybe the druid population would grow a little if they were.....more comparable to the other classes.

[ChaosSlayer]

yes, go druids! =)

I want to say that my druid was a raid healer on live, and I am really NOT looking to get the clerics job. I am more interested in running solo/duo missions, and getting some DPS - hence my proposal for Druid pets on the previous page

[Jeido]

Definitely druids. I know not many people play druids, but we definitely need all the help we can get. I've played all of the green servers and some of the white ones, and this one is in the top 5 as far as trying to help us out (some nice clickies on quested armor, the bot helps immensely with solo play), but maybe a little more help would straighten us out. I"m not asking to heal like a cleric, or nuke like a wizard, but right now the only half decent heal I have takes 10 seconds to go off...10 seconds. Anyone that has ever played a healer can tell you that 10 seconds is an eternity...it can mean the difference in group wiping and group success...we won't even go over how that affects soloing or duoing with the bot, especially considering since it's not the most miraculous spell anyhow. As far as nukes and dots...the cast times are tolerable on those, but the nukes are a little on the weak side, and assuming people know how to stack their dots, isn't the best means of damage. I only have a nuke memmed because I actively try to work on evoc, as my 2 best dots are conjuration. We're not down the tube by any means or anything, but maybe the druid population would grow a little if they were.....more comparable to the other classes.

Get 70 and get your Ancient heal. It's a 4 sec heal, but can be lowered to 1.9 with item focus + spell focus, and it crits for up to 15k or so.

[Jeido]

We're gonna hit Fennin tomorrow night, I'll have Loly do some parses. Last time he parsed at about 2k DPS tops I think, this was in ToV gear. Lots of changes have been made since then, so I'll report back with what he parses now so that everyone can see where wizards stand. I know wizzys aren't the only casters though : P

oops...forgot to have him parse >< I will this sunday! will PM him now lol

[TheBloodmoon]

In my opinion, the best thing that can happen to the druid class is more utility. On Live, during some encounters, cures were invaluable and the druids were perfect for the job. Sometimes druids were crucial to debuffs for the caster dps. Other times they were part of heal rotations. A lot of what's been customized on THF has eliminated those needs. What they need is a class defining set of utility buffs. For example, the reptile line is FANTASTIC, and in all honesty could use some upgrade. I'm sure there are more options.

Only problem with more utility is finding that line between buff bot or main druid. You don't want to necessarily make it easier to box a druid, but give them more functionality in a group and raid setting. I don't have any good ideas on how to accomplish that other than making their utility buffs last for very short durations, but I'm sure we can come up with some solutions.

Personally, I think a pet isn't necessarily the answer. Unless those pets can really pump out some sweet dps, it won't really make the class desirable in a raid or group setting. Solo, perhaps, but even then, they'd have to be subpar tanks as well post-sebilis.

I'm too tired to come up with a valuable idea, so I like to think of myself as a liaison between ideas, lol. Maybe I just like to read my own writing...

[Jeido]

I'm really not for the pet idea at all, as Tankzor said it would need to be superb and that would take away from necro/mage/beast roles. They need something unique rather than an already played out idea.

Regarding cures, I spoke with Tyler/Lillu about removing #bot cure curse and making people actually need to use radiant cure, remove greater curse. As a result, they'd make most new raid encounter AE's curse except for maybe a few which would still be disease based. Not sure where this ended up, they probably forgot about it, so here's a reminder! remember about removing cure curse Tyler?! =p

Back on the druid topic, maybe give druid DoT's a huge boost so that they can feel useful in groups, especially considering how far far far behind DoT dmg has gotten. I am sure once there is eventually a necro main then their dots will need boosts as well among other things.

[TheBloodmoon]

Problem I have with upgrading dots is that for them to be effective in a group setting, you'd have to make them very high dps with a short duration. The issue with that is the ease of recast once it has run it's course making it easy to keep high dps until you run out of mana (which is compensated by our custom gain mana clickies). Obviously, you can see the problem that could cause if done "en mass" on raid mobs. There is a solution, though, in giving said dots a sufficiently long recast time. Would give them good burst dps on group mobs, but not too much sustained dps on raid mobs...

[ChaosSlayer]

I don't see a problem with making DPS oriented pets -not tanks- but specifically dps pets.
Dots- I had dots before- lets do something new - screw SOE "vision" =P

[Lillu]

I don't see a problem with making DPS oriented pets -not tanks- but specifically dps pets.
Dots- I had dots before- lets do something new - screw SOE "vision" =P

lol

[Harney]

chose SK, but i would chose paladin equally to (also necro,mage,druid are just as needy)

however the ones i think are plenty strong and dont really need any attention would be your warriors,monks,rogues,beserkers and aside from bow damage rangers and shamans (esspecialy when they have ToV legs and 2.0 hehe). but then thats all in my opinion

I guess I fail to see how SK's need more work, they have lifetaps, DA, FD, the same tanking disc that warriors get. If you need aggro, then that's a single item that needs to be addressed, but if you are able to aggro lock mobs, then what advantage do warriors maintain over you? it was always the warrior disc, but as I discussed earlier, you have our best tanking disc as a clicky on your kael gloves, so that advantage is gone.


I have no problem with SK aggro being top on the server ( because that's always where they were on live, amazing snap aggro, could keep it if they wanted ) but only if defensive discs are under what warriors get, otherwise what's stopping everyone from just rerolling to tanks so they can aggro lock, use our defensive disc, and maintain all of the advantages of the knight classes ( spells, FD, healing, DA, pet, buffs, etc )