Threat Management

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Nexor
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Threat Management

Post#1 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:33 pm

Are there any items that have maybe a -Hate mod out there ?
Yes i donored i guess my rogue a bit to much out but , trying to see if i either can reduce the threat from Rogue or increase the threat with my Paladin.
Donors on Rogue 2 X Donor Weapon 2x Weapon Aug /Chest and Legs
Donor wise my Pally has Chest/Legs/Arms/Aegis Shield/Donor Weapon + weapon hate aug /CoH ear/FD ring / Aura and a few leafs.
If we look in terms of gear my Pally is def better geared and hate generation via DPS for him is not gonna happen. So only hate generation i currently can do for my pally is to spam Legs and spells but maybe there are items out there i am not aware off or maybe Spells/Buffs that have a effect on Hate either in a negative or positive Hate gain way.

Or did maybe something got Changed with introduction of the RoF client cause i noticed some odd behavior like when i was helping out a BST in the high 50s to 70 that occasionally had 100% threat in PoV while i was Meleeing and Chain casting True Command.
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Re: Threat Management

Post#2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:34 am

I was waiting a bit to see if others have any threat management issue or input on the topic. Nothing was changed heat generation wise and it's all calculated server side, the client version doesn't matter. Generally speaking rogues are in the top DPS tier and they always had to work for proper threat management, even the bots.

I see you are doing well on the pally side for generating threat but are you managing threat on the rogue side too? Do you evade as much as possible? An expert rogue could answer this better but I think some AAs are also helpful with threat management. Item wise nothing major comes to my mind other than Symbol of Rhea but I wouldn't recommend to get it just for threat management since it's a server supporter item.

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Re: Threat Management

Post#3 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:28 am

I can hold threat that isn't the issue just planning ahead for a time when i am Stunned/Silenced and Rogue would take over Threat within seconds. Rogue has from what i understand 2 tools Evade which is minimal Hate reducer and Escape is the oh Shit button. And yes i already thought about Symbol of Rhea, but a proc is a proc and is just a bit unreliable. Right now i can keep the Threat from Rogue at or around 50% with Chain casting. But of course i might miss some Rogue AA even though i believe i bought all major Rog AA for combat/threat.

See the post not as I can't keep the agro in all situations under control , but more like can i add/tweak things to delay the Rogue from getting Threat slowed down besides the obvious one stop attacking.

Some things i use or do is
-Invisible Man IV disc
-Stone of Lost Memories Augment with Concussion proc
-Evade
-Escape
Anything else i might miss ?
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Re: Threat Management

Post#4 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:13 pm

I use the stone of lost memories aug that you mentioned and the bracer from vt with a fade click. Honestly i have more problems with my zerker taking agro than my rog.

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Re: Threat Management

Post#5 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:57 pm

Ok Update
It seems Threat Management is more manageable.

My problem due to old playstyle was that my main threat generation comes from Weapon proc rather than actual spell spam.
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