Parsing requests

Explanations please - no flames
Karhaug
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Re: Parsing requests

Post#31 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:08 am

Yes thats my Magelo.
yes only the 1 aug. i have not gotten sleeper augs for it yet. I thought the DPS seemed a bit on the low side.

themike316
Posts: 118

Re: Parsing requests

Post#32 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:14 pm

sun buffs useing frenzy and volley
Vlad in 303s, 819k @2704dps --- Nebet 819k @2704dps
Nebet -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 819346 -- DPS: 2704 -- Scaled: 2704 -- Slash: 701787 -- Hit: 117559 -- Non-crit rate: 51% -- crit rate: 49% -- Attempts: 721 -- Hits: 721 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1136 -- Max hit: 2217 -- DMG to PC: 11

sun buffs 2.0 epic click and blind rage
Vlad in 305s, 1184k @3883dps --- Nebet 1184k @3883dps
Nebet -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 1184433 -- DPS: 3883 -- Scaled: 3883 -- Slash: 1040040 -- Hit: 144393 -- Non-crit rate: 28.7% -- crit rate: 71.3% -- Attempts: 788 -- Hits: 788 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1503 -- Max hit: 4434 -- DMG to PC: 18

sun buffs 2.0 epic click and untamed rage
Vlad in 314s, 1104k @3516dps --- Nebet 1104k @3516dps
Nebet -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 1104046 -- DPS: 3516 -- Scaled: 3516 -- Slash: 951594 -- Hit: 152452 -- Non-crit rate: 29.8% -- crit rate: 70.2% -- Attempts: 836 -- Hits: 836 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1320 -- Max hit: 2217 -- DMG to PC: 8

sun buffs 2.0 click and vengeful flurry
Vlad in 301s, 1037k @3445dps --- Nebet 1037k @3445dps
Nebet -vs- Vlad: -- DMG: 1036851 -- DPS: 3445 -- Scaled: 3445 -- Slash: 885376 -- Hit: 151475 -- Non-crit rate: 30.5% -- crit rate: 69.5% -- Attempts: 799 -- Hits: 799 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 1297 -- Max hit: 2217 -- DMG to PC: 8

used frenzy and volley for all parses and i have air slot 30 aug and 603 aas

themike316
Posts: 118

Re: Parsing requests

Post#33 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:20 pm

if you want i can parse useing all my discs

Jeido
Posts: 1265

Re: Parsing requests

Post#34 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:51 pm

You should parse from behind the mob, so that they dont riposte/dodge/parry your attacks. I see they did dmg to you, so you must have been in front and got hit by riposte. You'll get higher DPS #'s from behind, and that's where you atk on raids anyway (or should).

I'd also recommend posting your magelo.
Jeido, Founder of Evolution

themike316
Posts: 118

Re: Parsing requests

Post#35 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:12 am

well as for magel its http://www.thehiddenforest.org/magelo/c ... char=nebet
i'll parse sometime when i get on next

Lola
Posts: 491

Re: Parsing requests

Post#36 » Mon May 03, 2010 1:11 am

Wizard parses with & without bard song.

Vlan on 03/05/2010 in 114sec

Total
--- DMG: 555640 (100%) @ 4874 dps (4874 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 555640 (100%) @ 4874 dps (4874 sdps)
------ Total: 555640 -- Hit: 555640
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

Adding my Bard toon with Ancient call of power. I twist 1 chaotic detonation (24,5K normal/ 55K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3K225 normal / 7K215 critic). Self buff (+ bot devotion we always have) - True fire focii & epic 2.5 - result is published when oom.

(Absolutly no luck on critic which results with les DPS)
Vlan on 03/05/2010 in 122sec

Total
--- DMG: 533085 (100%) @ 4370 dps (4370 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 533085 (100%) @ 4370 dps (4370 sdps)
------ Total: 533085 -- Hit: 533085
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

Adding my Bard toon with Ancient call of power - Act 2! (no lucke on critic twice)
Vlan on 03/05/2010 in 117sec

Total
--- DMG: 562325 (100%) @ 4806 dps (4806 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 562325 (100%) @ 4806 dps (4806 sdps)
------ Total: 562325 -- Hit: 562325
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

Adding my Bard toon with Ancient call of power - Act 3!
Vlan on 03/05/2010 in 113sec

Total
--- DMG: 511020 (100%) @ 4522 dps (4522 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 511020 (100%) @ 4522 dps (4522 sdps)
------ Total: 511020 -- Hit: 511020
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

Removing bard and made a second attempt self buffed: twist 1 chaotic detonation (23K normal/ 51K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3K normal / 6K7 critic). Self buff (+ bot devotion we always have) - True fire focii & epic 2.5 - result is published when oom.

Vlan on 03/05/2010 in 111sec

Total
--- DMG: 519680 (100%) @ 4682 dps (4682 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 519680 (100%) @ 4682 dps (4682 sdps)
------ Total: 519680 -- Hit: 519680
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

Lola
Posts: 491

Re: Parsing requests

Post#37 » Wed May 05, 2010 8:40 am

Adding a parse after Ro's flaming familiar changes on 4th May.

With Ro's flaming familiar improved to 30% AND I got lucky on critics (12/29 hits)
1 chaotic detonation (24K1 normal/ 54K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3150 normal / 7050 critic)


Vlan on 04/05/2010 in 116sec

Total
--- DMG: 583150 (100%) @ 5027 dps (5027 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 583150 (100%) @ 5027 dps (5027 sdps)
------ Total: 583150 -- Hit: 583150
------ Normal rate: 100% (100% of DMG)
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

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diodio
Posts: 6

Re: Parsing requests

Post#38 » Sun May 09, 2010 6:40 am

What do you expect Tyler?Why don't test the result yourself with developers.
There are too many factors which affects the result.

Only you guys can set a fair test enviroment,such as all classes gears,weapon,agument.

There is a big difference result with two same lvl 70 monks.
Parsing A from
2.5 + 2 donators + full disc
Parsing B from
2.5 + 2.0 + LDON/Normal Offhand weapon + full disc

I dont know how you evaluate above...thats what you request...

I have a suggestion,could you post every class parsing with same enviroment
(what enviroment?Just think it by yourself...you know,such as same class armor set)
I think it takes not much time tho for you guys,but for player,its not.

But there is a difficult situration,you have to test it with somone tanking,I mean that ideal case should be every class does damage behind the mob. (Positive result for rogue)

After show up,damage dealer can roughly think their ranking in THF,surely there are
some side factors.

Say for examples

Example A
MNK parisng result = 3k dps
WIZ parsing result = 4k dps
First of all,I'm not sure the damage standing in THF,if THF thinks WIZ > MNK,this result
is pass.If not,I guess THF needs to do something for MNK or do nothing,because MNK is
functional class.

Example B
MNK parsing result = 4k dps
WIZ parsing result = 3k dps
Now MNK > WIZ,if THF think MNK > WIZ,no problem with it.If not,no doubt THF must need
to do something,WIZ is not functional class,DPS and nothing.

I think this is the best way to let everyone knows the role of class in THF,also it can answer the guys who ask a lot in CLASS BALANCING.

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Tyler
Posts: 4365

Re: Parsing requests

Post#39 » Sun May 09, 2010 7:22 am

People posting using the exact same software (gameparse) and their magelo so we can check their gear - its not rocket science.

Look, i will explain it again - this is a friendly community where we help each other out. If you say that class X is doing less whatever than class Y, YOU post a parse to backup your claims.

Do you honestly think that we have nothing better to do than setting upp 16 geared toons at lev 10/30/50/70/ with no AAs, some AAS, alot AAs, then with Epics 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 and Donators or a arbitary combination of the above, run parses from each and every combination for 10 mins and then balance around this?

There are still alot of honest players who would submit an honest DPS report that we can base our decisions on and I am able to differ the results from a 2.5 and 2.5 monk and 2.5 and rusty fork in the offhand monk.

We are interested in seeing - Monk 2.5 and Donator doing 10k dps and Berserker using Donator doing 3k dps. No one gives a flying monkey if said Berserker now does 3.3 or 3.5k dps. The unbalanced DPS regions are obvious enough for me.

I keep reading that Berzerkers are broken, don't do enough DPS etc etc. WHERE ARE THESE BERSERKERS?! I have yet to see some actual parse so they can't be broken enough if people can't be bothered to spend the 5 mins time to parse their existing toon on the existing parse NPCs that we provide for this reason in THF (which you can attack from behind if you want).

Also, just because a monk can FD pull doesn't make it a utility class. This is not EQLive. After the monk pulls, he turns on autoatk and even without his special attacks like Flying kick etc he puts out some respectable damage. By the same reasoning Rogues are utility too as they can run almost anywhere and setup coh with improved Hide - so better nerf their DPS - i think we won't ;)

Enough derail here - this thread is for parsings, not for arguing. If any of the other Devs has enough time to set up the above mentioned controlled test environment, by all means go for it. I can already see the thread that the gear used for testing is too high/too low/not meating the average casual/raider etc style :)
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

Relnon
Posts: 142

Re: Parsing requests

Post#40 » Sun May 09, 2010 8:49 am

Manis - lvl70 Shadowknight
1599atk (Sune buffs and Spirit of Fail leg clicky only)
6 AAs (so nothing worth mentioning)
SK Donator Weapon
Wearing full set of Lguk tier armor, no ferocity/cleave etc.

Edit: Magelo - http://www.thehiddenforest.org/magelo/c ... char=Manis

I know I'm still a fresh 70 with mediocre gear, but I figured I'd post it for reference purposes.

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***All the damage there is 100% the pet, it seems to list his lifetap damage as mine when it isn't. Would actually be nice if his lifetaps healed me, but alas they do not. =(

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