Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

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Rarles
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Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#1 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:45 am

Been doing a lot lately since my SK has been getting geared. My question is has anyone happened to notice any aggro issues between the tanks, more specifically SK/Pally as I do not see ANY warrior tanks, let alone DPS.

Was tanking the 4 dragons before sleeper and the instance for the last tier of charm and been noticing my SK has REALLY bad aggro compared to a Pally. Up against a zerker that's same tier(6) geared as i am, only difference is that he has donor weapon, I am completely undonored. No matter how much aggro i throw at the mob (seething anger Rk1, Dread Gaze, Beholder's gaze rk1 and my Shield of the Dracoliche clickie 1k hate/3sec) the zerker was easily able to pull aggro off of me just auto attacking whereas the same zerker up against a similar geared pally wont even start to take aggro.

Curious if anyone has noticed any aggro issues between tanks or are SKs just bugged? Or are SKs just flat out useless tanks?
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Noren
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#2 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:53 am

It's possible there is a bug, but one thing I noticed is that your tank is missing a hate mod effect. That would drastically change your situation.
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Rarles
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#3 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:07 am

by hate mod effect you mean something along the lines of "Echo of Anger #" correct?
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Stickybuds
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#4 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:10 am

yea echo of anger worn effect.

it increases the agro of everything you do, white dmg, hate clickies, heal procs, dmg and anger procs, etc. It really makes a big difference.
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Rarles
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#5 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:09 am

ahh okay, ive got a Echo of Anger III clickie i use from my belt of velocity in bags, but doesn't seem to help much
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#6 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:58 pm

Hmm that is a strange item, never seen echo of anger clicky before, it is usually a (worn) focus.
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#7 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:21 pm

There are a couple of clickie echoes, including the one Nodyin uses from Maestro in DSK3 with echo 5, that stack with worn hate mods.
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#8 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:09 pm

So I just got full t6 geared today, added an anger aug to my weapon and running the echo of anger. I got my zerker a little bit better geared and now my t3ish zerker now my zerker is pulling aggro from my SK that's pushing as much aggro as he possibly could dsh out and AUTO ATTACKING the zerker is pulling aggro. So givin that has anyone else found issues with SK aggro?
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#9 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:37 pm

I would take a look at your weapon and its augs. The type 4 you have is a low lvl anger aug. If your T6 you need to be using the quested anger augs from PoAir called Brutal Blade webtools/items.php?id=13820

You can replace the low lvl type 4 you currently have with one of the type 4 augs from PoStorms to start i think they are even better ones in Sol Ro tower.

You can find a box of silver off VP trash for the open type 16. It may not be much but its better than an open slot.

Really you should try out this weapon from ST 1st boss. webtools/items.php?id=11920 While it doesnt look like much at 1st glace, i bet it will give you better agro than the one you are currently using. The proc is a group rune, and runes give tons of agro, group runes times that agro by 6.

All in all, upgrade your weapon augs, keep clicking that hate clicky shield. You should really look for a (worn) echo of anger focus, the buff version you are using is only rank3 (15%). You can get rank 6 using a LDON aug (30%) or rank 7 from Sol Ro tower. A rank 6 or 7 worn + rank3 from that clicky buff should give you a large boost.
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Re: Tanks, possible aggro imbalances?

Post#10 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:41 pm

Also I would suggest using lvl 67 buff Shroud of Discord instead of the lvl 70 Power of Shadows. The shroud of discord is more dmg, also has a +hate component to it, a stun component, and is a lifetap instead of just a dmg proc.

It wont be a game changer but it will help.
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