Parsing requests

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Re: Parsing requests

Post#121 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:16 pm

MrJonkers wrote:Just to give an idea of 2.5 war at the Pofire/PoAir level, here's Bahana again:

2.5, Sleeper offhand, Ferocity 7, Cleave 7, Chromatic Arc 5, 800+ AAs, etc.

With only Sune buffs:

Vlan in 719sec, for 1885566HP and your 2622dps

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Edit: Just wanted to post this up here since I didn't see a non-donator warrior parse.

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Is this the end all warrior parsing? No, it isn't, but it's end game, he's got the 2.0 with 2.5 aug ( honestly, the 4 damage jump to the 2.8 aug isn't a huge difference ) and he's got a double lifetap augged 1hs with a chaotic strike proc offhand. What warrior parsed 3.7k for you and what monk parsed 4k?

Tyler wrote:Its overpowered that Warriors with endgame gear to 3.7k DPS while Monks do the same. Im fine with Monks doing 4k DPS but Wars needs to be tuned down.

Whats your suggestion?


Parsing warrior and monk for you as I type this
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Re: Parsing requests

Post#122 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:18 pm

Item Change -> Reload needed
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Post#123 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:24 pm

Ok, so a warrior with double donator swords and 2.8 aug / 2.5 aug parsed 3.6k with sune buffs only, and he's also got 9 leafs and donator gear, unless the monk that parsed 4k for you has the level of gear that kron does, I can't really expect that you're going to get an equal parse, using max donator gear equipped characters and comparing them to non-donor geared chars is a terrible way to measure dps.

You just saw a parse from a non-donor'd warrior with 2.5 and a solid offhand, it's no where near what donor swords and 2.5 / 2.8 / poair augs parse.

I think we need to measure non donor weapons, and if possible, non donor'd chars only since there are far more of those than decked out donor'd chars
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Re: Parsing requests

Post#124 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:30 pm

Thats one of things im worried about with the class rebalancing. You can't compare donators to non-donators and make it even. The same as you can't take top geared toon and compare it to a mid-level toon. I would say the average player on this server has t4 gear level. Something to think about.
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Re: Parsing requests

Post#125 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:31 pm

Yea that's true. I had a look at Kron's gear but not close enough i guess.

Looking forward to your parses Harney.
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Post#126 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:32 pm

There are way too many inconsistencies / gear gaps from the toons doing these parses for us to get a solid idea of where classes actually stand. I'm running a parse now on Vlar, which is what Kron parsed 3.7k against, and I'm not even breaking 3k with Harney and I'm using double donator swords, I'll post a detailed breakdown of the fight in a few, but I'd like to see the full numbers from the Kron parse to get an idea of how there is such a huge gap in what he's parsing and what I'm parsing.
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Post#127 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:36 pm

That's good news really. I don't want to nerf Warriors at all. But i want classes to be in line or at least much more in line than what they were 4 weeks ago.

If Wars hover around 3k Dps, thats really fine with me. I rather bump some other classes up then. But as i said, looking forward to your parses.
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Post#128 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:44 pm

This is Vlar, running another parse on Vlan now

Double donator swords, xegony type 4 aug, poair type 8 aug, poair type 30 aug in one. froggernought type 4 aug, poair type 8 aug, epic 2.5 aug in offhand. Sune buffs only. Harney.

Vlar: -- DMG: 886523 -- DPS: 2519 -- Scaled: 2519 -- Slash: 595955 -- Hit: 290568 --


Daddy

donator primary with xegony type 4, poair type 8, poair type 30, xegony offhand with double poair type 8s. Sune buffs only. Daddy

/tell Daddy Daddy -vs- Vlar: -- DMG: 965240 -- DPS: 3016 -- Scaled: 3016 -- Punch: 368402 -- Hit: 339618 -- Crush: 176540 -- Kick: 80680

warrior 83.5% of a monk on Vlar

This is more indicative of a real fight, Vlar has some AC to him, much like any raid boss

Those are against Vlar, which is what Kron apparently parsed 3.7k against. Again, I'd like to see the full numbers on that, even a monk mashing flying kick didn't touch that.

Vlan parse

/tell Harney Harney -vs- Vlan: -- DMG: 1464023 -- DPS: 4022 -- Scaled: 4022 -- Slash: 1128658 -- Hit: 335365

/tell Daddy Daddy -vs- Vlan: -- DMG: 473601 -- DPS: 4426 -- Scaled: 4426 -- Punch: 196702 -- Hit: 122310 -- Crush: 113347 -- Kick: 41242 -- Non-crit rate: 100% -- Attempts: 687 -- Hits: 687 -- Accuracy: 100% -- Avg Hit: 689 -- Max hit: 2050 -- DMG to PC: 0

this fight warrior was 90.8% of a monk


In my personal opinion, the only melee dps that needs to be tweaked is archery and knight dps, everything else I think has fallen in to place where it should be.
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Re: Parsing requests

Post#129 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:49 pm

Except High end gear non donator weap rogues :)
I am wrong, Tyler did it for all the lazy rogues...

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Re: Parsing requests

Post#130 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:51 pm

Thanks Harney. Knights definately but also Zerks should be a tad closer to Rogues/Wizards.
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