New Wizard changes

Explanations please - no flames
Aesop
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#21 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:23 pm

He is doing single target. Just because he is using RAINS does not mean multiple targets. You cast multiple rains on a single target. Try it, see what you come up with.

Aesop
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#22 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:42 pm

Which rains and what item are you using anyhow?

Taladome
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#23 » Tue May 11, 2010 9:35 pm

with manaflare on, stacking quillmaines book of swirling geathers, ghelid rains, and a lower lvl magic rain because there dont seem to be any high ones. Once every minute clicking the epic 2.0

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Aesop
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#24 » Tue May 11, 2010 11:30 pm

Try using Gelid Rains and Tears of the Sun (66 fire rain) both are unfocused 1168 dmg + whatever the book is + 2.0 click.

Taladome
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#25 » Wed May 12, 2010 4:52 am

The book casts tears of the sun thats what i use.

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Cfuson001
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#26 » Wed May 12, 2010 6:42 am

Ok guys let me start out saying that i played a wizard on live around the Pop/god/oow era and they could never do 94k dd but what they could do was keep nukeing with a 84k average. Now i know this isent live and some things have to be tweaked but in my opinion the problem is u make us to weak or to strong. Once mana flare starts stacking ill be doing close to 105k nuke with 2.0 clicky and ro's.

My soulution is to remove the DD nuke on the 2.0 and add these effects.

Fire focus 90%
Crit chance 15%
Clicky - Decrease mana on fire spells by 50% (this will lower the cost of fire CD by 1k mana) you will see how much our dps goes up.

Now to finish wizards off give us a 15k dd fire spell and take away mana flare (you wizards will prob hate me for this but it isent even needed) with a 15k dd nuke we will be doing about 85k dd average. Give this nuke 2.5k mana and with the 2.0 clicky it will only cost 1250.

So after all that and with the new spell implimented we have a 84k dmg crit spell (ithink) 90% fire focus from epic 2.0 along with the clicky that makes all fire nukes cost 50% mana. this should make us 7k dps and you should never have to touch us again imo.

Thx Veridian 2.0/ 305 aa / ST keyed.
Last edited by Cfuson001 on Wed May 12, 2010 7:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

Aesop
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#27 » Wed May 12, 2010 6:52 am

Can you use both the spell and the book? I really wanna do some testing but I have garbage gear and rains atm (also only 70 AAs or so)

Lola
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#28 » Wed May 12, 2010 7:29 am

Cfuson, before you ask for 2.0 remove, did you ever parse?

I did all my parses including 2.0 clicky at the begiing of each cycle then clicking it every minutes. Did you took the time to look at parses before making your proposal?

I do not even reach anb average 7K in 20 parses !!!

Stop asking for changes if you do not use actual statistics made with the new clicky effect, that's totally unrespectfull ragarding the time some people spent parsing!

Cfuson001
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#29 » Wed May 12, 2010 7:32 am

yeah i parsed 5044 during ST last night about 680k dmg but still with the fix i posted i think that would make us perfect imo. I for one dont want wizards to revolve around useing rains+ mana flare like Taladome said i play a wizard for the big bang nukes but 94k is a bit much. Atleast to me.

Lola
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Re: New Wizard changes

Post#30 » Wed May 12, 2010 7:37 am

Ok, I give up for this.

If wiz want to get their DPS down to less than 5K because high nuke isn't acceptable, that's fine. I ll play my 7 other characters.

I stop trying to make wiz what they should be, whatever spell combo you use....
I am done when I read that.

1 nuke will never do the whole DPS.
5K DPS (with true fire - 20 K mana) on ST Warder is far from what I would expect from my wiz even if it is for 2 x 2min nuking (enough to kill warder with 1 group)

Tell me how we could do 7K Dps removing the 2.0 epic clic ? (If you make spells less manacost, you wont change anything on the DPS. Dps is affected by casting time & dmg - short casting time = burst dps = means OOM earlier

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