Backstab Augs

[Otter620]

I didnt change anything in the screen shots. I actually am wondering if there is a parse dummy that will just let me BS him from behind. I havent gone to the Arena to try those yet. Also my rogue doesnt have the planar power aa's maxed yet along with many other. I will do some more messing around on it. I know just my rogue can take the CT dummy down to 1% health on its own. I am sure if i had maxed aa's, be able to stand behind the parse dummy, knew the class alot better I could get the dps higher.

[Rude]

I didnt change anything in the screen shots. I actually am wondering if there is a parse dummy that will just let me BS him from behind. I havent gone to the Arena to try those yet. Also my rogue doesnt have the planar power aa's maxed yet along with many other. I will do some more messing around on it. I know just my rogue can take the CT dummy down to 1% health on its own. I am sure if i had maxed aa's, be able to stand behind the parse dummy, knew the class alot better I could get the dps higher.

The arena dummies are far less likely to spin around near the start of the fight, in my experience. The ones in GH constantly spin for some reason after the first time you do a parse with it.

[825th_tomcat]

Buffs on the right, extended my hit window to show more of the session and my hits... usually 765k Backstabs but only 622k for some reason, couldn't figure out what I was missing tbh. Something obvious no doubt!


30 second parse



1 minute parse

[Lucent]

The whole idea of avoiding nerfing the donor augs is silly.

My understanding of donor items (except maybe the BPs etc which are kind of meant to break the rules)...

Is that they are supposed to be "in line" with the top tier obtainable stuff in game. So currently donor items should be roughly t9 gear. maybe very slightly ahead.

This has always been my understanding.

If this is the case, and the best BS aug in game is currently +27 BS damage from Khasva, then having donor augs give 95/105 backstab damage is absolutely ridiculous and blows that away. The other donor augs for weapons are probably above and beyond by a good margin what you get in game as well, but you don't have giant multipliers (backstab) on everybody's white damage so its not such an issue.

If the best in game is 27, perhaps the BS damage on donorn weapon augs should be toned down to 30 and 35...

When a SINGLE piece of donor gear (augs) is over 3x as good as what a player can get in game (27 vs 95/105) then they are a problem. When you get a fully auged disparity on weapons that someone listed before of 67 backstab damage non donor.. or 267 backstab with dnor.. now you're talkigna bout donor equipment pushing around 3.5x as much power as is normally obtainable.

Please rethink these items.

I'm also in huge favor of adding BS damage to augments.

Every damage aug I've seen so far doing xp zones, and raid tiers up to 5.. absolutely no backstab damage! You would think at least the quested *DPS* wewapon augs would have matching (or slightly lesss, say 60%) backstab damage.

You may also consider adding a questline for rogues to get an aug line for an aug with BS that goes in any slot.

And lastly, on that note, shouldn't the rogue epic 2.5/2.8 augs have backstab damage? I'm under the impression they do not. lol

[825th_tomcat]

It is only main hand +BS that effects the BS damage so other augs and armor with +BS are pointless.

[Sian]

It is only main hand +BS that effects the BS damage so other augs and armor with +BS are pointless.

are you sure about that ? All other items with + BS are useless ???

[Ydiss]

The 2.5 slot 30 is not lore. I have two on Ylaz, one in his 3.0

Whilst I agree that it would be nice to have more progression items for bs damage, I don't feel it's relevant to use donor items as any form of bench mark or balancing. We have breastplate items that let the rogue bs every other second and do huge damage, way out of line with any in game progression. Donor items have never been a good basis for balance.

By all means it's sensible to balance based on content and peer classes.

[Ydiss]

It is only main hand +BS that effects the BS damage so other augs and armor with +BS are pointless.

are you sure about that ? All other items with + BS are useless ???

This is how I understand it to be.

[825th_tomcat]

Yeah I've tested it in GH. Even Offhand doesn't count towards it.

[Lillu]

By all means it's sensible to balance based on content and peer classes.

QFT.