Plane of Air trash

Problem with pathing,spawns etc - post here
Allizar
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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#11 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:42 pm

I'll reply to this one more time, just to break it down.

Probably unknown to most of you, but I have been a member of most T5+ guild on the server. I've seen the corpse drag exploits, I've seen the members farming lifetap augs on island 1 in under an hour to increase survivability x 200 for an alt, I've seen the 4 box crews farming xegony daily and selling tokens/getting their 12th EPE with almost 0 effort.

Of course none of you would complain. None of you complained about wizard NPC's not casting either, does that mean it shouldn't be fixed?

The changes are incomplete, but this is a part of them. ST has an 8 hour respawn, and guilds gear up just fine in that stage. There are more then enough mobs of every type to get enough aug materials, all you have to do is move around.
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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#12 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:50 pm

Well said.

Time to start the constructive feedbacks Argonas and the rest who does nothing but post criticism.

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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#13 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:05 pm

Criticism is the only constructive feedback.

Don't assume that I don't appreciate the efforts of the devs. I am still here afterall. And i care enough to voice a concern over a zone that is no longer needed for any of my own efforts.

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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#14 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:32 pm

something thats actually wrong with air trash: there are quite a few mobs that, when moved even the slightest from their spawn, fall under the world making it impossible to attack. all you can do is hope you can get a bot to aggro it(usually cant #bot group attack underworld), or wait for a pet/ds to kill it which takes forever.

would love to see this addressed as its been an issue for quite some time.

on topic: i suggest giving phoenix gustlets(the adds breezewings pop on death) a chance to drop phoenix items the same way vengeful air spirits have a chance to drop castellan items, would alleviate some of peoples concerns.

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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#15 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 pm

My main concern was phoenix droprates being miserable and flooring of mobs.

Both of these are being looked at, and time/effort spent on the pathing alone is greatly appreciated.

That said, im game for trying this as it now is, using the methodology required and chiming in afterwards.

Thank you for working on the pathing/flooring.



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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#16 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:00 pm

Argonas wrote:Criticism is the only constructive feedback.

Don't assume that I don't appreciate the efforts of the devs. I am still here afterall. And i care enough to voice a concern over a zone that is no longer needed for any of my own efforts.


This.

The server's awesome. I, like Argonas, question the changes being made at this time, to this zone's trash. I didn't compare trash spawn times in raid zones since they're all over the place, VP trash is a 24 hour respawn for example.

That the work done by the devs is appreciated is indicated by the numbers logging in each day/night. I can't believe you really want those that post to simply play the role of "yes men". Sometimes people will have to agree to disagree, in the end you DO decide what gets changed and how.
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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#17 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:27 pm

At first I read the changes and thought this would suck HOWEVER I see that the birds drop rate was looked at and a slight error was corrected. A+ x1
Also I see that the pathing is being looked at which was a major issue because if you attempted to fight a bird on any of the paths and you did not keep it darn close to its spawn it it had a very high chance of falling under the ground and just killing you. A+ x2
Now to actually go up there and see if those changes had the desired effect or not.

On the note of "watching people box Xeg ...."
Well you know when you get to the point where you have geared up your characters enough to solo that content why should it be made harder or considered a bad thing?
Just because I can and do solo Xeg doesnt mean the encounter is to easy for those on tier.
Just food for thought.
(Fixing corpse drag is valid and personally I think anyone that did use that should have had all of the items gotten using that deleted or even the account deleted)

Allizar
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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#18 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:12 am

Put in about 10 mind numbingly tedious hours on the PoAir pathing nodes, it's 95% done and should be ready for next patch. Just have to fix a few small glitches

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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#19 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:19 am

pathing fixes are awesomesauce

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Re: Plane of Air trash

Post#20 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:42 am

I think everyone needs to take a look at the fact that since the server was founded that the devs have constantly been working to make all the zones competitive and fun but still challenging. At first glance I wasn't thrilled about the trash mobs spawn times but then i started to think about it and after speaking with another member about experiencing EVERYTHING the zone had to offer it makes a lot more sense.

I think we have to look at the truth of the matter that PoAir was easy to exploit, easy to farm and now you simply have to put a little more effort into the zone without breezing thru it as in the past. Farming sucks but its part of the game and we simply need to adjust like we have with all the other changes that first we all "OH No thats gonna suck!" which now are like "Hasn't it been like that forever?".

The drop rates and pathing have been addressed and are being worked on and the devs have always taken our input and worked it so that it is whats in the best interest FOR ALL PLAYERS on THF not the highend or low end people but everyone. I think that they will continue to do this so that everyone has equal opportunity to aquire what they need. The zone is instanced, it could be much worse where its like PoFire and everyone could be in there, so lets just give it a chance before we jump the devs ad start bitching. My 2 coppers
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