Plane of Air trash

[unreel28]

I'll reply to this one more time, just to break it down.

Probably unknown to most of you, but I have been a member of most T5+ guild on the server. I've seen the corpse drag exploits, I've seen the members farming lifetap augs on island 1 in under an hour to increase survivability x 200 for an alt, I've seen the 4 box crews farming xegony daily and selling tokens/getting their 12th EPE with almost 0 effort.

I am required by Lillu Law to post positive posts only as I am considered a trouble maker.

So here I go, Grey basically said what I was going to mention. When you see these player's 4 boxing Xegony its not because she is an easy target, its because we raider Air, raided Fear, and Raided VP and DS. So at that point wouldn't you expect to see a lower tear boss like Xegony be solo boxed?

I am going to continue. Not being negative of course but being honest and positive

We can all assume that Air trash at its previous state could be considered wham bam thank you ma'am, if... Well if this was a solo server. But everyone box's, and everyone already had a headache spending weeks on end to aug their 4+ toons. But the best part about it was, no one really complained! Yes, it was a headache, and yes it was a dreaded task, but I believe many people would call fair! But oh no, 2 Hour respawns. Now we feel that the situation we called fair is no longer.

Anyways, even though im on a much needed break from THF, I read updates daily, and your attention to these zones is appreciated by myself and obviously from others. As Lillu once told me, things are done for the greater good, not everyone is going to like it, so fuck off. Haha, well he didnt, say fuck off, but im sure he wanted too =D

Maybe Allizar could break out a bunch of polls and people can vote on a bunch of stuff, it could possibly help with your mission

[Brontu]

I'll reply to this one more time, just to break it down.

Probably unknown to most of you, but I have been a member of most T5+ guild on the server. I've seen the corpse drag exploits, I've seen the members farming lifetap augs on island 1 in under an hour to increase survivability x 200 for an alt, I've seen the 4 box crews farming xegony daily and selling tokens/getting their 12th EPE with almost 0 effort.

I am required by Lillu Law to post positive posts only as I am considered a trouble maker.

So here I go, Grey basically said what I was going to mention. When you see these player's 4 boxing Xegony its not because she is an easy target, its because we raider Air, raided Fear, and Raided VP and DS. So at that point wouldn't you expect to see a lower tear boss like Xegony be solo boxed?

I am going to continue. Not being negative of course but being honest and positive

We can all assume that Air trash at its previous state could be considered wham bam thank you ma'am, if... Well if this was a solo server. But everyone box's, and everyone already had a headache spending weeks on end to aug their 4+ toons. But the best part about it was, no one really complained! Yes, it was a headache, and yes it was a dreaded task, but I believe many people would call fair! But oh no, 2 Hour respawns. Now we feel that the situation we called fair is no longer.

Anyways, even though im on a much needed break from THF, I read updates daily, and your attention to these zones is appreciated by myself and obviously from others. As Lillu once told me, things are done for the greater good, not everyone is going to like it, so fuck off. Haha, well he didnt, say fuck off, but im sure he wanted too =D

Maybe Allizar could break out a bunch of polls and people can vote on a bunch of stuff, it could possibly help with your mission

pretty much sumed up what i was going to post in reply to grey as well.

[Allizar]

Never said I had a problem with Xegony being boxed, I said I had a problem with her being boxed with a few chars and 0 effort or clearing. I'm all in favor of 6 hour respawns and the removal of teleport NPC, Plane of Air was designed with a straight path to Xegony port rainbow anyway. The drop rate has not been nerfed, it's actually been increased. All you have to do is move around more.

Inc next patch: Faerie's that drop T9 loot when you /wave at them

It's done, not changing, get over it. All you are doing is wasting dev time =P

[Kron]

Can someone summarise whats going on here? something about drop rates, birds, someone saying fuck off to i dont know who, like wtf?

[Brontu]

perhaps i read grey's post and rage's wrong.

lol. entirely possible when im sitting here getting distracted by the forums when i need to finish writing my darn term paper for class thats due 2morrow ><.

I think its just an issue with some of us long term players seeing changes that we didnt feel were necessary, now its not our job to determine whats necessary and what isnt. So with that said, i personally dont LIKE the changes made to air, simply b/c you just make me have to work a little harder on something that required NO effort before. BUT i see where its coming from. there were alot of exploits, and alot of issues with Air before, which i agree need to be changed and fixed. And THANK GOD someone is looking into the pathing, thats awesome! actually makes me want to clear more if i dont have to worry about the birds/guardians dropping through the floor everytime i pull something. So i think thats a huge plus out of all of this.

Changes will be made and those of us, myself included, who are so stuck in their ways, will just have to adapt, at this point i feel just a very concise list of all the changes made in air would be nice to see - i know alot was posted on the updates and i think allizar said that he had a concise list in the works too - also i wouldnt mind seeing a concise list of the changes in VP, one was never posted, and while we have experienced it all now (including killing the new PD) a solid list for those just starting or guilds who cant get in their very often would be nice to have. (sry atm PD strats are not for sale).

I would like to say a big THank you to all the devs, lillu, mikuz, vaion etc. They put alot of hard work into these changes, and we tend to give them alot of crap about it, but we will adjust (just give us some time) and we will and do still appreciate everything you do.

BTW Allizar where is that fairy? wtb some t9 gear 8).

oh and epic isnt a bad thing lillu, keeps me entertained @ work rather well 8)

[Kron]

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[Kron]

"Changes will be made and those of us, myself included, who are so stuck in their ways, will just have to adapt"

[Grey]

We had a member that needed augs and asked for help. While up there we did a round of avatars and Xegony, did some other stuff then went back and farmed trash for augs.

I was amazed. Pathing even with the wrong nodefile uploaded was perfect, IE nothing fell under the floor and just gib'd me.
Drop rate adjustment must have been magical as we managed to finish a reasonable number of augs for the time spent clearing 3 or 4 isle's of trash and 2 wings of the castle(s).

Xegony of course hates me still but that's because I watched Reservoir Dogs the day before I ate at the place she waits tables so of course I didn't tip...

[Brontu]

We had a member that needed augs and asked for help. While up there we did a round of avatars and Xegony, did some other stuff then went back and farmed trash for augs.

I was amazed. Pathing even with the wrong nodefile uploaded was perfect, IE nothing fell under the floor and just gib'd me.
Drop rate adjustment must have been magical as we managed to finish a reasonable number of augs for the time spent clearing 3 or 4 isle's of trash and 2 wings of the castle(s).

Xegony of course hates me still but that's because I watched Reservoir Dogs the day before I ate at the place she waits tables so of course I didn't tip...

aye i will admit i was quite impressed with the pathing, even with the wrong set loaded - just makes me all the more happy when the correct one is up and running.

we also did see a large # of augs drop. i believe our guildy finished 9 augs on that run which almost beats me out for any single clear i did like that when they were 30min runs.

Overall id say - like my post above - we are stubborn, but we WILL accept change, given time 8).

And your winning me over on the Air changes - though... Kallosia seems to just be in a really really annoying spot lol.

[Grey]

Yea only downside from my perspective is the number of things that see through invis now.
Its just more stuff I will kill as I do things, the only actual downside is its hard as hell to use my monk to coth to final 2 avatars. I think I can live with that in return for the mind numbing work you had to do on pathing.