From the heart(about HoH)

[Vaion]

(V is working on them).

I need to copywrite/trademark that phrase :p

[Firenze]

I am posting this NOT as a GM

your not a gm anyway !

[Micah]

French people ...... /sigh

[Grey]

Lillu,
That is understandable and nadox with points is pretty darn ideal for this and I love you to death for it.
V- you too since you do so much of the darn work.
Micah, I hate leechers and in total I leeched about 2.5 hours a day while in HoH. I would take breaks to eat or read a book for 30min just so I could keep from jumping in the bath with a toaster. However the majority of the player base has no problem with leeching while some of us do the majority of the work and I hate that and those people.
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At least with the option to do nadox for points and another task it wont be bad. We will be able to grind HoH with non-guild friends if/when population is low / desire to. Do Nadox as a guild with no lag and just the fun death touches which I turned into a drinking game.
Drunk Nadox ftw

[Micah]

Do Nadox as a guild with no lag and just the fun death touches which I turned into a drinking game.
Drunk Nadox ftw

I HATE those random DTs!!

/eye Vaion!

[antihero]

Do Nadox as a guild with no lag and just the fun death touches which I turned into a drinking game.
Drunk Nadox ftw

Heh....I turn every time I log in to play into a drinking game. I win every time!

[BosCo]

Have to agree with Grey on the leechers, never been a fan and there for don't do it or offer it to anyone, but on the note with Nadox would there be a way to make the point value lower then that in HOH. I only say this because if the points are the same you well get most guilds doing JUST Nadox and there for not many mix guild groups in HOH. That was one thing i liked about HOH is the whole mixed guilds making new friends new group learning different ways people play and of course the BS'in with different people. There just not many zones to do this in.
Just my 2cp

[Vaion]

These are the point values that will go live with the next reboot:

HoH - 1.5 per kill
Nadox - 2 per kill


The difference is that HoH is a lot easier difficulty wise than Nadox. I originally designed Nadox NOT to award points and be basically a downtime raid zone for when the HoH named were down. With the sheer number of people who have gained access to HoH (Seriously i zoned in once and saw 143 in /who) my original designs had to be modified. Offering the points in Nadox is in no way, shape or form meant to undermine the design of HoH. It is meant only as a way to give the players who do not want to deal with the zone lag/numerous leechers a chance to get away from them and still earn points.

Those who have faught in Nadox know what the trash scripts are like there (Random DT's/Raid wide DT's/50k Nukes/Cancel Magic's every 3 seconds), just because the point value in Nadox may be higher, doesn't mean that the rate of point allocation will be any higher than in HoH.

[arc]

I don't see why people get so upset about leechers. They aren't even "leechers" in any literal sense because the players who are killing aren't losing out. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion; as someone who has spent many hours grinding, I would rather help other players than give them the shaft. Most players (in my experience) grind when they can, and AFK when they can't; it's not malicious.

The only time AFKers should be kicked is a full raid with active players waiting to join, because it's not fair nor efficient. Other than that, AFK away; it won't make this last evolve any less arduously long.