Proc adjustment - Discuss here

[Tyler]

Maybe im talking chinese but don't care anymore to be honest.

You and your guild have been called out, numerous times. Have been asked again and again to supply HARD DATA. Parses from Wars/Rogues/Monks/Zerks that you all claim to suddenly not do any dps or hardly any dps and in return need to require 4 Wizards now.

Your reply was and i quote

"Yes all that Fusion does is cry,cry,cry".

And you wonder why i delete this.

[Harney]

CT is down(im assuming you guys go him), I really don't see why you're up in arms over this change, it really doesn't seem like anything major has changed for melee.

[Tyler]

Removed a couple of posts. Stay on topic. Post parses so we can further evaluate. I'd be very interested in Rog/War/Zerkers.

[Expletus]

I parsed myself and compared to the other parses. Wizard blows my parses away.

[Tyler]

Figures? Can you please post - seriously guys. This is getting ridicolous..

[Expletus]

If I could I would, Im at work sitting in my patrol car atm. I can't post till later today (9 hours from now).

[Tyler]

Ok np.

Edited my post. Panther added roughly 300 DPS, not 500 as reported in a different thread.

[khaliss]

Bumping up the CD of the defensive ring is not the solution (IMHO)... the ring is there to only be used as a last resort for difficult encounters... we shouldn't really be relying on those, cuz it's going to be to unfair to tanks who don't have one. The GMs have explicitly said that the server's development isn't focused/balanced on high end raiders alone, but for everyone.

-edit- Just to clarify, I have the defensive ring

So how do you overcome the problem which Volgar mentions above?

The only direct solution I can think of is either:
A.) bring more DPS to shorten the fight (a wiz or two? lol)
B.) instead of 1 tank... you bring two

Like I pointed out, we shouldn't really be relying on item clickies. I didn't like that idea when I started on the server, too many clickies&effects... it steals the utility of other classes. The defensive ring is suppose to be an "oh crap, my disc dropped, this named is tougher than I thought" last resort thingy... not something that you use and rely on ALL the time. It trivializes tough or long back-back fights.

[Kron]

Bumping up the CD of the defensive ring is not the solution (IMHO)... the ring is there to only be used as a last resort for difficult encounters... we shouldn't really be relying on those, cuz it's going to be to unfair to tanks who don't have one. The GMs have explicitly said that the server's development isn't focused/balanced on high end raiders alone, but for everyone.

-edit- Just to clarify, I have the defensive ring

So how do you overcome the problem which Volgar mentions above?

The only direct solution I can think of is either:
A.) bring more DPS to shorten the fight (a wiz or two? lol)
B.) instead of 1 tank... you bring two

Like I pointed out, we shouldn't really be relying on item clickies. I didn't like that idea when I started on the server, too many clickies&effects... it steals the utility of other classes. The defensive ring is suppose to be an "oh crap, my disc dropped, this named is tougher than I thought" last resort thingy... not something that you use and rely on ALL the time. It trivializes tough or long back-back fights.

So essentially what you are saying is bring more toons to a raid? Wizards and more tanks?

Also as far as I am aware no guild or player can tank dracoliche or ct with one stonewall. So the ring has to be used all the time otherwise you will die. We could do it before but with changes now we can't.


Regards

[Tyler]

Parses please - no opinions. Leaving these comments for everyone to read now. Only post solid data.