True Renewal

[surf3001x]

True Renewal becoming CLR/SHM/DRU use-able makes cleric's almost utterly useless. I should just re-roll my cleric as one of them now and start botting a cleric instead!

I would suggest either making the spell cleric only and giving SHM/DRU something less powerful or...just giving SHM/DRU what they have now and making true renewal cleric only. Point being True Renewal is the best heal in the game and should remain reserved for the best healing class in the game....clerics.

[Harney]

I agree shaman shouldn't be on it, but I disagree with removing druid from it. On this server druid's have nothing else besides raw healing.

[Rerfu]

That would put the druid over the cleric in terms of single target healing because they have the Skin reactive heal proc.

I'm Not saying druids shouldn't get a better heal then they currently have, I'm just saying don't make it the same heal value as a cleric.

Druids are supposed to have Nukes though I doubt they are currently tuned to where they should be, I don't personally have a druid to test with.

As far as Shaman, I think we all agree that they are strong enough without giving them a huge single target heal upgrade.

What I would propose in 3 new spells:

Based off True Renewal in current state:

Cleric 100% of current.
Druid 75% of current.
Shaman 20 to 30% increase from Ancient spell heal, or an Upgraded Slow spell with a resist modifier.

[Tyler]

Ok, i see your points. However i want to make sure that Dru/Cle can also heal on raids because frankly, beside buffing and slowing, they aren't doing much.

So please post some more suggestions what to do with this spell.

[Harney]

if you want to give priests an upgrade to their heal, it needs to be across the board and not for just one class. if you want to put in a mini ch for druids and shamans, then it needs to be worthwhile to cast. there are two options i see from this

create 3 upgrades to each ancient heal and put them off poair mobs, or tune this so that druids and shaman get a CH that's worth memming and using.

I'm really against giving priests a huge heal boost as we already don't require a ton of priests for healing, so that I fear if we give each class a huge boost, it's going to be more melee and 2 priests on every raid killing shit.

[Tyler]

Yea each class gets an upgrade to their ancient heal. Spells created, new spellfile will go live soonish. Then it's just a matter of Lillu reloading the server.

[surf3001x]

My guild has zero active druids, but if we did they'd use skin of chaos + chaotic elixir's and spam whatever their best heal was.

Shamans now use epic 2.0 click + elixir + ancient to heal quite adeptly.

Clerics have their ancient, 2.0 click, divine arb, celestial renewal, elixir as their main healing abilities.

Making the best heal in the game use-able by all classes devalues the cleric's abilities.

As Harney said, I'm all for giving all the priest classes upgrades to their heals, but clerics should remain well ahead of all the others. That promotes the leveling and gearing of clerics on raids (like it should be) versus just having a bunch of shamans and druids.

[Harney]

instead of making new spells, what about making true renewal a 25% heal focus as a buff, so healers across the board raise their healing efficiency by 25%, not changing anything other than making it so that tier 5 healers can heal for more than a tier 2 healer.

[Lang]

if you make new spells, the order should remain the same as it is now with the ancient spells, with the same % difference.

ill just leave it at that and hope you decide for yourself instead of listening to whatever people decide to post on this thread.

[surf3001x]

No offense Lang, but your post doesn't make a lot of sense. I re-read it 5 times and still couldn't decipher what you're trying to say aside from the sly insult.

On the other hand my argument couldn't be clearer. Cleric's are meant to be the top healing class, that is the point of a cleric. Now Harney has put forward some good suggestions, we should examine those but the end result should always be the same, clerics remain the top healing output possible.

For those...who can't heal as well whatever their class be, maybe they should consider rolling a cleric then.