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[brasileira]

Hi there,

I just leveled my Bard and Rogue to 70s, got them a few AAs, and now im stuck at mid (or some would call it lower) end.

As I can feel now, besides doing 1.5 and charm 3.0, kael armor, theres pretty much it.

People normally dont group around, so its pretty hard doing 2 box or even when I find another guy, 4 box those nameds. Well, thats not a problem from the server, rather the population.

But lets go the main issue is that there arent many quests out there to do after you get your 1.5 and your charm 3.0. The rest you need to wait for a guild to take you raiding.

And after you get all your AA`s and still have no raiding guild, you done.

so here comes my suggestion:

- Add more 70/70+ zones. Just like Charok/Kael (Dont need to be 100% custome zones, but just the nameds)
- I`ve played on another server that you could have tomes of power, which would get all your experience and transform into power of your tome. Like if you are a healing class it would power up your healing, up to 20%. This could be done here would be awesome, because then we could have something extra after our AAs.
- Also as another server, Prestige Quest, that you can delevel to lvl 1 and do all again just to gain something.
- The Alternative Progession is a good idea, but seems very very abandoned.

Overall what I feel is that after you reach 70, do Kael/Chardok/Ssra, get your 1.5 and a few AAs, there`s nothing much to do around.

[ChaosSlayer]

The Alternative Progession is NOT abandoned
its very much alive, it just takes a tremendous ammount of work to be put into as its always 100% customized.
next tier of alt-p should be coming out soon

[Lillu]

heya,

You totally forgot to mention ldon. You can do it for fun, for the challenge and for loot.

besides this, you are totally right, once you got lvl 70 and are done with 100+ custom quest/task, completed tons of ldon missions, got some achievemtns, explored all custom zones, got all desired loot, grouped in 70+ zones and so on..you have to find a raiding guild. And honestly, there are quite a lot out there at every tier range from tier 1 to 6. THF offers quality and quantity raid content and you would miss a lot if you would want to skip it.

About the Prestige Quest and Tome quests. Well these kind of "time sink" quests are in my mind for a long now, however I would like to find out something different and something more exciting and meaningful. gaining 20% healing power simply trivalize the content, doing it more than once would be game breaking and we would like to offer challenge for our players and keep it that way. Starting the content all over again from lvl 1 might be a good idea but doing it with lvl 70 gear would also trivalize the content. not talking about the fact that all zones would be packed with deleveled lvl 70+ geared players pulling entire zones. the delevel npc is already an issue on THF that bothers lots of players, so offering this would cause lots of trouble.

legit zones having custom bosses is a good idea. I already planned to implement "world bosses" and I'll do it once I get the time.

as for further plans, yes, we do plan to extend the 70+ solo and group content just a lot other projects are going on atm, like Alt progression path, updating our custom server code, creating 6 paralell tiers to the atual raid zones and so on.

as always we want to know what our community thinks and would like to see us implement, so I will start a new thread about ideas what kind of "timesink" our players would like to see that they would enjoy and keep them busy on THF for a long time.

as a side note, the server is almost 1 year old and we have quite a lot of players who spent 10+ months here. just curious, when did you start here brasileira?

[brasileira]

sorry but I cant find the 100+ quests/tasks that are worth, since the drops from the zones 55-70 are too overpowered.

Ldon, yea, that is one big timesink and nice upgrades, but sorry its really really boring. Any chance you can add some random drop off trash in Ldon Zones and Custome Zones that give 10/20 Ldon points? So give us something to do trash in the zones.

And yes, I already so much time on lvl 70 that I already got all desired loot from Icewell and Charodk (well not the FD earring)

I dont want to skip raid, I want to raid, but people either to on their owne world, 6 boxing, or with their own guilds. And if I try to make a pickup raid no one joins.

- Other thing about raids is that its all blocked, since you need to kill emp in ssra to go to ToV, kill somethign in ToV for Sleepers, and so on. So If i cant kill emp in ssra I will never progess

[khaliss]

The idea of having more world bosses like the ones in Kael are definitely a big plus. I myself would like to see an unlocked VexThal with the same difficulty as Kael bosses to encourage pickup groups/raids... and yields the same quality, but more class-specific loot.

[moordian]

Clearly the answer is to customize Veeshan's Peak. Here is what I would do -

1. Instanced with a limit of 6 people in zone (like LDoN)
2. Strip all buff when you zone in so you have to work with what you brought
3. No bots
4. Difficulty similar to Melalafen or so
5. Loot in the 300-350 hp/mana range.

[Lillu]

- ldon has drops off trash, and specially off nameds
- ldon has 32 type of intances, 4 type of themes and 4 type of adventures. I loved to do ldon back on live. it was fun having to hunt in different small dungeons to different type of npcs with friends. but guess we are all different
- make a guild and recruit some players who struggle finding a guild?
- you heared about the tokens that tier bosses drop and are dropable and via a quest can flag you up to tier 5?

sorry but I cant find the 100+ quests/tasks that are worth, since the drops from the zones 55-70 are too overpowered.

Ldon, yea, that is one big timesink and nice upgrades, but sorry its really really boring. Any chance you can add some random drop off trash in Ldon Zones and Custome Zones that give 10/20 Ldon points? So give us something to do trash in the zones.

And yes, I already so much time on lvl 70 that I already got all desired loot from Icewell and Charodk (well not the FD earring)

I dont want to skip raid, I want to raid, but people either to on their owne world, 6 boxing, or with their own guilds. And if I try to make a pickup raid no one joins.

- Other thing about raids is that its all blocked, since you need to kill emp in ssra to go to ToV, kill somethign in ToV for Sleepers, and so on. So If i cant kill emp in ssra I will never progess

[ChaosSlayer]

Actually there is something we been discussing, as Tier Revamp.
Currently pre-raid game on THF essentially broken into 3 tiers:

1-30: CB/PC
30-55: Guk. Karnor, CoM
55-70: Sebilis, Solb, PoV

We have this idea to make tier progression more smoother, by diving the customized zones into more tiers, and introducing intermediate gear set, essentially introducing more customized zones. So we want to make 5 tiers instead of 3 with something to look like this:

1-25
25-40
40-55
55-65
65-70

We also want to tie this together with melee weapon dmg re-scaling (and mob hp rescaling) which was discussed in the other thread.

[brasileira]

-- you heared about the tokens that tier bosses drop and are dropable and via a quest can flag you up to tier 5?

But how I`m suppose to get them? That in my opinion make the less sence ever. For that I need relay on other people, which unfortunetly the population doesnt help. People are very self centered, sorry to say that, only 2 boxing or 6 boxing with their own bots.
And they wouldnt sell, because pp doesnt make any sense in here.

Another thing I could suggest is a platinum sink, like buy special buffs/augs with alot of pp

[TheBloodmoon]

Personally, I think if you tried hard enough, you could make some friends. THF has one of the larger populations in Emu, with many guilds ranging in all tiers of progression.

Secondly, there is plenty of fun side quests that are enjoyable and worth the time, including Headhunter tasks, and the clicky SoE boots from Chardok, to name a couple. Do some research and you'll find there is plenty to do.

Have you tried forming your own guild? I can't say it's easy, but I managed to pull a ragtag group together to create Progeny back in the server's infancy, when there was 1/10th of the content to complete...

You could also work on progressing through PoFire and farming tradeskill components to build yourself more armor options with the upgrade path in PoFire...

I don't think you've fully explored and researched even a fraction of what the server offers and have little right to complain much without pursuing more options for yourself....