Calling all Rogues

[Koeril]

With the customization of weapons and mobs on this server, our poisons are really, for the most part, kinda blah. Lets throw together some ideas for the devs and see if we can get them to provide us with some custom recipes.

To be honest, I think DD is already covered fairly well by Soul Burn though maybe the resist rate could be reviewed. It sure doesn't need any more damage added to it though.

So lets be innovative ... our devs are among the best and can create things that may not necessarily have existed on live (or maybe create something close)! Any decent ideas we can come up with I will add to this initial post and then submit them to the powers that be

[justadude]

Would it be possible to have a non-rogue who uses a rogue bot supply said rogue bot with poisons to use? Thanks!
~jd

[Koeril]

Rogue bots can't use poisons at this time.

[Shaitan]

Im no rogue but If I was having a way to de-agro myself would be prety nice. What about something like a mem blur for long battles?

Playtime/Playouse

[Nexor]

Im no rogue but If I was having a way to de-agro myself would be prety nice. What about something like a mem blur for long battles?

Playtime/Playouse

Rogs do have that which is called Evade. I am certain it works for players but Bots not using it.

Evade, put simply, is turning off attack and hiding during combat, which drops you way down the aggro list, even on a failed evade.

In other words you make a macro with attack off > hide > attack on and you have your agro reducer.

[Tyler]

Or use one of the many concussion/jolt etc clicks available on this server.

[dstuffle]

Any new poisons should be of the PoP type (multipule procs per application) not the pre PoP type that only took effect once per application.

Poisons I'd like to see:

* a stacking hate reducer over time (1st time it goes off it reduces hate by 5% per tick, second time 10% per tick, ect) maybe limit of 4 stacks.

* All of the following made Proc poisons

fully vendor made poisons:

spine break 32 - constrict suspension, delphinium, lined poison vial, thorny ergot - effect: 95% snare, 50% slow, 40 sec

anti-element 76 - ground garlic, lined poison vial, red hellebore, suspension - effect: 250 dd on summoned creatures

rancid wolfkiller 76 - chunk of meat, dogbane(2), lined poison vial, suspension - effect: 250 dd on animals

atrophic sap 98 - alocasia root(2), constrict suspension, lined poison vial - effect: lower str by 43

aching blood 108 - constrict suspension, lactera(2), lined poison vial - effect: 177 dd

brain freeze 130 - constrict suspension, gelsemium root(2), sealed poison vial - effect: 181 dd, stun(1 sec)

powdered banality 140 - constrict suspension, gelsemium petals(3), sealed poison vial - effect: lower mana by 265

beastchoker 172 - castorbean, chunk of meat, constrict suspension, hounds tongue, sealed poison vial - effect: 298 dd to animals

calcium rot 172 - constrict suspension, king's thorn(2), sealed poison vial - effect: 98 dd to undead

metallic alkaloid 215 - larent suspension, lead peroxide, quicksilver, sealed poison vial, white lead - effect: 233 dd, stun(1 sec)

cyclic vertigo 258 - crystal nightshade, larent suspension, sealed poison vial, snowcap amanita(2) - effect: lower FR CR MR DR by 20, 3 min

iron dimethyl 268 - iron sulphide, larent suspension, quicksilver(2), sealed poison vial - effect: 245 dd, stun(1 sec)

spirit of sloth 275 - creeper ivy(2), ethereal suspension, sealed poison vial - effect: 60% snare

* The materials for these poisons added to the drop lists of various zones.

POP poisons:

sting of the shissar(essence) 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, shissar venom sack - effect: 75 dd proc

sting of the shissar(venom) 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, tainted planar essence - effect: 75 dd proc

bixie sting 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, phosphorous powder - effect: proc, 75 dd, stun(1 sec)

crushed vein 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, dust of decay - effect: proc, lower hate by 150, lower str by 60

mental burn 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, nardoo - effect: proc, lower mana by 300 supposedly

spine bruiser 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, crystallized sulfur - effect: proc, 55% snare

zombie bane 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, undead shissar venom sack - effect: proc, 175 dd to undead

minor irritation 231 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, fungus clump - effect: proc, 55 dd, 66/tic dot, 10 min supposedly

confusing whisper 250 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, nodding blue lily, remiss sketch - effect: proc, lower hate by 250

withering flesh 250 - advanced poison vial, amber resin, celestial suspension, deepwater ink, vein rot sketch - effect: proc, 36/tic dot

bite of the shissar 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, phosphorous powder, shissar venom sack - effect: proc, 125 dd

mangled tendon 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, dust of decay, plague mites - effect: proc, lower hate by 150, lower str by 60

wasted flesh 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, deepwater ink, drop of mercury, plague mites, vein rot sketch - effect: proc, 35 dd, 42/tic dot

mental implosion 322 - advanced poison vial, autumn crocus, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, nardoo - effect: proc, lower mana by 300

oozing irritation 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, fungus clump, twilight worms - effect: proc, 55 dd, 66/tic dot

scoriae bite 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, golden ember powder, phosphorous powder - effect: proc, 75 dd, stun(1 sec)

rage of incapacitation 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, golden ember powder, sluggish sketch, wax flower - effect: proc, lower hate by 150, lower dex by 60

dreams of drusella 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, nodding blue lily, remiss sketch, twilight worms - effect: proc, lower hate by 250

mayong's bane 322 - acrylia grubs, advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, drop of mercury, undead shissar venom sack - effect: proc, 175 dd to undead

spine rend 322 - advanced poison vial, celestial suspension, crystallized sulfur, drop of mercury, mistletoe - effect: proc, 55% snare



LOY poisons:

nematocyst poison 159 - constrict suspension, lined poison vial, ovate jellyfish - effect: dd proc, lvl + 10

paralyzing neurotoxin 162 - blowfish barb, constrict suspension, lined poison vial - effect: proc, 30% slow

anemone feedback 180 - constrict suspension, frilled anemone, lined poison vial - effect: proc, lifetap 20 dd max



GOD poisons:

several poisons made for the god freebie poison tradeskills quest, and a couple that nobody has a clue where they go to



OOW poisons:


bitter feedback 196 - advanced poison vial, blood-filled aneuk heart, chimera lion's eye, gelidran blood - effect: proc, 20 dd max

freezing feedback 216 - advanced poison vial, blood-filled aneuk heart, chimera lion's eye, gelidran heart blood - effect: proc, lifetap 75 dd max

flesh rot 268 - cracked girplan eye, dark discordling tongue, girplan liver, sealed poison vial - effect: proc, 45/toc dot

mind stir 302 - aneuk eye, bazu toes, discordant ooze, sealed poison vial - effect: proc, lower mana by 375

mental discord 322 - aneuk eye, bazu toes, feran brain, sealed poison vial - effect: proc, lower mana by 450

bloodpyre 324 - flaming pyrilen tail, pyrilen blood, sealed poison vial, ukun spike - effect: proc, 125 dd

seeping haze 335 -advanced poison vial, girplan spinal fluid, icy gelidran hide, scaled dragorn hide - effect: proc, lower hate by 250

spinning confusion 340 - chimera bull's eye, discordling dust, sealed poison vial, slitted ikaav eye - effect: proc, 85 dd, stun(1 sec)

vascular inferno 347 - chimera poison sack, noc tail, sealed poison vial, singed pyrilen tongue - effect: proc, 65 dd, 73/tic dot, 30 sec

heart blaze 351 - flaming pyrilen tail, pyrilen heart blood, sealed poison vial, ukun spike - effect: proc, 125 dd

mind shock 351 - advanced poison vial, icy gelidran hide, pyrilen brain, scaled dragorn hide - effect: proc, lower hate by 250

spinal disorientation 351 - chimera bull's eye, discordling spinal fluid, sealed poison vial, slitted ikaav eye - effect: proc, 95 dd, stun(1 sec)

systemic destruction 356 - elder chimera poison sack, noc tail, sealed poison vial, singed pyrilen tongue - effect: proc, 75 dd, 85/tic dot

bite of the ikaav 15 - constrict suspension, sealed poison vial, venomous secretions - effect: proc, 46 dd, 46/tic dot, 30 sec

That sould be enough to make any rogue happy.

(poison recipies from: http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/show ... hp?t=24049)

[Zolzimar]

Yep, nice info in those quotes, but I think it would be in our best interest to make a revised request list after researching to see if any of those requested components were added to loot tables.. this post is over a year old. I've been busy with work lately, but I still need to post about my poison only being able to be applied to one of my daggers. Tues evenin I'll try get that done and look at the lists above in depth.

Edited~ Im a noob and didnt know how to apply poison properly, but Ive got it figured out now.. Dont have a dagger problem, just a cashflow problem while trying to skill up poison making lol.

[dstuffle]

As of this posting Oozing Irritation and Bite of the Shissar (Tainted Plannar Essance version) are not creatable.

Oozing Irritation: Twilight worms do drop in Akiva's Ruins. Fungus Clump does not drop from small mushrooms in Fungus Grove (not yet sure if it drops in Bastion of Thunder).

Bite of the Shissar: Plane of Disease, Plane of Nightmare, Plane of Water, and Crypt of Decay were not accessable to me to get Tanted Planar Essance (if it even drops). I've not been on a raid to SST to see if Shissar venom sacks drop, I do know they do not drop in the Grey.

[dstuffle]

Another poison that might be useful:

* stacking Hyper slow poison (one that stacks with Shammy and chanter slows and allows total to go over the slow cap).
Ex: first proc slow mob's attack 5%, second one stacks on that.