Chaotic Swarm Leader loot table

[khaliss]

I was looking at drops of this world boss, and it seems that the items are a little overpowered:

Sash of Dormant Memories
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: WAIST
AC: 55
Effect: Ferocity V (Worn)
Effect: Form of Protection III (Casting Time: 2 sec)
STR: +20 DEX: +25 STA: +15 AGI: +25 CHA: +15
HP: +425 MANA: +425 Endurance: +425
SV FIRE: +20 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Dot Shielding: +5%
Regeneration: +10
Mana Regeneration: +5
Endurance Regeneration: +5
Shielding: +8%
Spell Shielding: +5%
Haste: 50%
Required level of 70
WT: 2.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

Trophy of Woven Cartilage
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: FINGERS, NECK
AC: 37
Effect: Improved Gather Mana (Casting Time: 10 sec)
STR: +15 DEX: +25 STA: +25 WIS: +30 INT: +30 AGI: +20 CHA: +10
HP: +435 MANA: +435 Endurance: +435
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +25 SV POISON: +30
Dot Shielding: +3%
Regeneration: +2
Mana Regeneration: +7
Endurance Regeneration: +5
Shielding: +5%
Spell Shielding: +5%
Required level of 70
WT: 19.4 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

With two PoAir/ST augs, these items can reach a whooping 800+ HP, and they even have useful stats/clickies and one has a worn effect. IMHO, the stats need to be toned down a bit (maybe 275HP base?), because the boss doesn't look like it's any tougher than an NToV named.

[khaliss]

To further point out how OPed they are, take a look at this Chaotic LadyVox drop:

Shard of Lady Vox's Toenail
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: EARS
AC: 28
Effect: Cleave IV (Worn)
STR: +11 DEX: +9 STA: +13 WIS: +22 INT: +22 AGI: +23 CHA: +14
HP: +285 MANA: +285 Endurance: +285
SV FIRE: +17 SV DISEASE: +18 SV COLD: +21 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +10
Attack: +20
Damage Shield: +5
Regeneration: +4
Mana Regeneration: +4
Endurance Regeneration: +4
STRikethrough: +3%
Stun Resist: +5%
Required level of 65
WT: 0.6 Size: TINY
Class: BER BST ROG BRD MNK SHD RNG PAL WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

Take note that this is a NOTRADE item from a much harder World Boss, and even has class restrictions. The chaotic swarm leader items SHOULD be inferior to this one.

Just saying...

[Taladome]

Im thinking the vox drop being nodrop is not as intended and the stats are just underpowered on the vox earring..needs to be bumped up and put in line.

Taladome

[khaliss]

I disagree... a NOTRADE item SHOULD be a tad better than an attunable item (given they are from a similar level/difficulty mob). Lady Vox being a full tier above Swarm Leader should make the difference even more significant. Let's take the Trophy (earring/attunable) for example, this item is just 65HP shy from the Sleeper earring (A tier3 Raid boss, NOTRADE), which has 4 million HP and has a VERY nasty AOE and debuffs. It takes us 3 full groups to get a guaranteed kill on Sleeper, where Swarm Leader 1.5million HP) you can easily 1 group/box him... even Tantor in Western Wastes is harder than that.

[khaliss]

^ Correction to my post above.

Chaotic Swarm Leader is TIER 1 = ToV named difficulty level

Chaotic Lady Vox is TIER 3 = Blaxxax The Omnified difficulty level

That's two tiers difference... let's be honest, those items need to be nerfed. Dunno if the other drops need to be re-examined.

[Jeido]

ToV = T2, PoF = T4 =p

[khaliss]

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World bosses - details
Now that they are live, here is some more detail. There are 5 difficulty level (tier 0 to 4).

Tier 0 - Ssra Blood difficulty level
- Chancellor of Di'Zok - Lake of Ill Omen
- Ishva Mal - Infected paw
- Stormfeather - Iceclad
- Modani Qu 'Loni- The Overthere
- Holy Windstalker - Qeynos Hills

Tier 1 - ToV named difficulty level
- Fippy Darkpaw - North Qeynos
- The Swarm Leader - Netherbian Lair
- Ancient Cyclops - Ocean of Tears

Tier 2 - Progenitor difficulty level
- Trakanasaurus Rex - Trakanon's Teeth
- Tserrina - Tower of Frozen Shadow
- Quillmane - South Karana

Tier 3 - Blaxxax The Omnified difficulty level
- King Xorbb - Gorge of King Xorbb
- Shardworm Broodmother - Great Divide
- Lady Vox - Everfrost

Tier 4 - Avatar of Mist difficulty level
- Grieg Veneficus - Grieg's End
- Severilous - Emerald Jungle
- Fellspine - Siren's Grotto

Happy hunting!
The THF team

[Lillu]

difficulty level is one thing.. finding them being up is another. This is why some items seem a bit OP. You can't really farm these. If you do, well that IS a problem. So let me know.

[khaliss]

Lillu,

I was also comparing the Chaotic Swarm Leader Loot vs. Chaotic Lady Vox Loot... both of which are world bosses. I mentioned the Sleeper comparison, just as an added reference. A Tier-1 world boss attunable item shouldn't have much superior stats versus a Tier-3 world boss notrade item. Just my 2cents.

I'm not suggesting a huge nerf, even a 100hp reduction will suffice... so it doesn't look too "unbalanced".

[Lillu]

aye, agree on that. we'll look into it.