Chaotic Swarm Leader loot table

[Tyler]

Its about higher end SSra, Hp Priest, Glyphed, EMp etc all fall in this range.

Where is this sticky located - ill editit.

I'll have a look and compare exact quality from these 3 mobs with what drops now from the chaotic mobs.

[Aesop]

Tyler, did you see the 5 ToV bosses I listed that are slightly harder, or in 4 cases EASIER than the tier 1 World Bosses?

[Aesop]

The sticky is located in the general help section

[Aesop]

Oh that Jericho, what was he thinking?

Sash of Dormant Memories
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: WAIST
AC: 55
Effect: Ferocity V (Worn)
Effect: Form of Protection III (Casting Time: 2 sec)
STR: +20 DEX: +25 STA: +15 AGI: +25 CHA: +15
HP: +425 MANA: +425 Endurance: +425
SV FIRE: +20 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
Dot Shielding: +5%
Regeneration: +10
Mana Regeneration: +5
Endurance Regeneration: +5
Shielding: +8%
Spell Shielding: +5%
Haste: 50%
Required level of 70
WT: 2.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

Windraider's Belt
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: WAIST
AC: 35
Effect: Improved Dodge IV (Worn)
STR: +10 DEX: +30 STA: +30 WIS: +20 INT: +20 CHA: +30
HP: +435 MANA: +435 Endurance: +435
SV FIRE: +27 SV DISEASE: +27 SV COLD: +27 SV MAGIC: +27
Regeneration: +10
Combat Effects: +25
STRikethrough: +5%
Stun Resist: +5%
Haste: 51%
Required level of 70
WT: 0.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty

The second belt is a drop from Zlexak, a ToV boss who is slightly easier than the World Boss named.

As I said in the FIRST place that a nerf was needed, it seems like it was more like in terms of aug slot. So in other words Jericho did a pretty good job in the first place. Yes it needed a nerf, no it didn't need a nerf to pre-ssra levels.

[Aesop]

Bleh, sorry I kinda lost it there. Hate it when I'm being dismissed without any merit and ignored so I'm just being a jerk now. I apologize for the tone of all my posts.

[Tyler]

Stop it now people. You cant compare ToV loot mob alone.

Remember what it all takes to even get into Tov compared to the easy task to find a world boss up.

[Aesop]

difficulty level is one thing.. finding them being up is another. This is why some items seem a bit OP. You can't really farm these. If you do, well that IS a problem. So let me know.

We haven't even seen ToV yet. We have a tough enough time finding Ssra mobs not being killed for headhunter quests without even worrying about world boss loot. Yes world boss loot needed to be looked at, but as I have proven in more ways than one the original difficulty was appropriate. When I go to kill World Bosses I'm competing with tier 4+ geared folks farming stuff for alts/bazaar. Tyler yes the loot needed nerfed, and we are not killing them anymore, nor will we bother because we are about to be able to kill emperor and move into our very own ToV (Thank you for that !)

I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. Honestly it's probably just Taladome who kills world bosses anymore anyhow so as a whole it doesn't affect the server terribly much except for those folks who don't want to raid, and just do stuff and accumulate wealth. They do exist! We were just trying Swarmleader for fun, and after literally 2 hours or so of wiping we killed it. I don't know if we got unlucky or something but he would take out my warrior in a single flurry. And we were doing him because I wanted the hammer for my wizard to up the dps we are capable of (the NEW wizard scales better in the early game and it's awesome!).

World boss loot had a different vision for sure, all I'm saying is look at the RVR - yes it takes quite a bit to get into ToV. We've been working at it for over a month and still aren't there. So maybe the mobs should be more difficult as Progeny suggested, but as they stand they drop loot **almost** in line with the difficulty. I opened this with a quote from Lillu again, because she has agreed with that vision, and maybe still does to some degree. We used the 2 pieces of tier 1 world boss loot for ourselves when we finally found swarmleader up, but we were not above buying it which helps the economy a lot.

So do what you got to do, but don't get overzealous, either in buffing or nerfing. With wizards you tuned it very well, then took a little back. I can't say one way or another how well the buffing/nerfing did for wizards but they definitely scale awesome with the lower tier guilds, not to get off topic. I know I got jerky with my posts, I tend to do that but just to re-iterate one last time - me and my guild love this server. We think you guys do an awesome job. On my last server I forbade my entire guild to donate (SoA) not just because we didn't want the crutch, but because we felt the staff didn't do anything at all. Here I am ok with it because you guys do put a lot of work into the server. So please don't take anything I say personally because you guys do a good job and you know it.

[Tyler]

No worries, in germany we have a saying : you are running into open doors.

Aka your message already got across

As i already said, i will review all this very closely next week and we go from there.

[Aesop]

Sweet thanks for your work Tyler

[khaliss]

Some of the loot tables on other world bosses look a little odd too (underpowered). For example, look at this item:

Eye of The Beholder
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: FACE
AC: 33
Effect: Cleave III (Worn)
STR: +17 DEX: +15 STA: +10 WIS: +13 INT: +12 AGI: +13
HP: +285 MANA: +285 Endurance: +285
SV FIRE: +30 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +25
Damage Shield: +5
Mana Regeneration: +4
Combat Effects: +15
Accuracy: +15
Required level of 70
WT: 1.5 Size: SMALL
Class: BER BST ROG BRD MNK SHD RNG PAL WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty

This drops from Chaotic King Xorbb which is suppose to be "Blaxxax d' Omnifiend" difficulty. But look at the base HP/mana/AC & worn effect. Kinda makes me think that the stats are meant somewhere in between a T1-T2 world boss instead of a Tier3.

-edit- even if you add a 175hp+10ac aug from PoAir (which leaves one type8 aug slot), that will still amount to only 460hp & 43AC. PoFire items usually have a base of 525HP/mana and one type8 aug slot. Sample below drops from Babnoxis, the spider queen:

Mask of the Insightful
Slot: FACE
AC: 76
Effect: Wurine Distance (Focus)
STR: +15 DEX: +35 STA: +15 WIS: +40 INT: +40 AGI: +20 CHA: +10
HP: +525 MANA: +525 Endurance: +525
SV FIRE: +30 SV DISEASE: +30 SV COLD: +20 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +30
Attack: +50
Mana Regeneration: +7
Accuracy: +25
Required level of 70
WT: 0.9 Size: SMALL
Class: BST SHM BRD DRU SHD RNG PAL CLR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty