Loly's Parses

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Lola
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Loly's Parses

Post#1 » Tue May 11, 2010 12:28 pm

I do a separate thread with my todays Parses : 10 self buff + 10 Raid situation with bard and finally one 10 min fight.

Here we go:

Self buff + Ro's flaming + True fire + engaging on Epic2.0 clicky / refresh after 1 min + switching 1 chaotic detonation / 1 Writ of dragonkind:
#mystats: 19272 MANA

*********** SELF ****************
Vlar on 11/05/2010 in 110sec

Total
--- DMG: 649500 (100%) @ 5905 dps (5905 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 649500 (100%) @ 5905 dps (5905 sdps)
------ Total: 649500 -- Hit: 649500
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30
2nd ONE:
Vlar on 11/05/2010 in 106sec

Total
--- DMG: 739200 (100%) @ 6974 dps (6974 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 739200 (100%) @ 6974 dps (6974 sdps)
------ Total: 739200 -- Hit: 739200
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30

3rd ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 104sec

Total
--- DMG: 640950 (100%) @ 6163 dps (6163 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 640950 (100%) @ 6163 dps (6163 sdps)
------ Total: 640950 -- Hit: 640950
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29
4th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 107sec

Total
--- DMG: 698900 (100%) @ 6532 dps (6532 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 698900 (100%) @ 6532 dps (6532 sdps)
------ Total: 698900 -- Hit: 698900
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30

5th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 117sec

Total
--- DMG: 737350 (100%) @ 6302 dps (6302 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 737350 (100%) @ 6302 dps (6302 sdps)
------ Total: 737350 -- Hit: 737350
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

6th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 106sec

Total
--- DMG: 721000 (100%) @ 6802 dps (6802 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 721000 (100%) @ 6802 dps (6802 sdps)
------ Total: 721000 -- Hit: 721000
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30

7th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 114sec

Total
--- DMG: 830950 (100%) @ 7289 dps (7289 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 830950 (100%) @ 7289 dps (7289 sdps)
------ Total: 830950 -- Hit: 830950
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

8th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 112sec

Total
--- DMG: 693150 (100%) @ 6189 dps (6189 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 693150 (100%) @ 6189 dps (6189 sdps)
------ Total: 693150 -- Hit: 693150
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

9th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 112sec

Total
--- DMG: 886850 (100%) @ 7918 dps (7918 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 886850 (100%) @ 7918 dps (7918 sdps)
------ Total: 886850 -- Hit: 886850
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

10th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 104sec

Total
--- DMG: 680150 (100%) @ 6540 dps (6540 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 680150 (100%) @ 6540 dps (6540 sdps)
------ Total: 680150 -- Hit: 680150
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29

Average Self buff DPS: 6661.4 DPS

Lola
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#2 » Tue May 11, 2010 12:28 pm

*************BARD ADDED (My raid situation)*********
Adding my bard (epic clic and ancient call of power (still messed) which is for me, my raid situation:

Vlar on 11/05/2010 in 113sec

Total
--- DMG: 818550 (100%) @ 7244 dps (7244 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 818550 (100%) @ 7244 dps (7244 sdps)
------ Total: 818550 -- Hit: 818550
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

2nd ONE:
Vlar on 11/05/2010 in 108sec

Total
--- DMG: 844650 (100%) @ 7821 dps (7821 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 844650 (100%) @ 7821 dps (7821 sdps)
------ Total: 844650 -- Hit: 844650
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30

3rd ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 128sec

Total
--- DMG: 850605 (100%) @ 6645 dps (6645 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 850605 (100%) @ 6645 dps (6645 sdps)
------ Total: 850605 -- Hit: 850605
------ Attempts: 32 -- Hits: 32

4th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 101sec

Total
--- DMG: 694650 (100%) @ 6878 dps (6878 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 694650 (100%) @ 6878 dps (6878 sdps)
------ Total: 694650 -- Hit: 694650
------ Attempts: 28 -- Hits: 28

5th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 113sec

Total
--- DMG: 778695 (100%) @ 6891 dps (6891 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 778695 (100%) @ 6891 dps (6891 sdps)
------ Total: 778695 -- Hit: 778695
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

6th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 111sec

Total
--- DMG: 744540 (100%) @ 6708 dps (6708 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 744540 (100%) @ 6708 dps (6708 sdps)
------ Total: 744540 -- Hit: 744540
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

7th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 113sec

Total
--- DMG: 817305 (100%) @ 7233 dps (7233 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 817305 (100%) @ 7233 dps (7233 sdps)
------ Total: 817305 -- Hit: 817305
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

8th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 108sec

Total
--- DMG: 678330 (100%) @ 6281 dps (6281 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 678330 (100%) @ 6281 dps (6281 sdps)
------ Total: 678330 -- Hit: 678330
------ Attempts: 30 -- Hits: 30

9th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 107sec

Total
--- DMG: 717795 (100%) @ 6708 dps (6708 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 717795 (100%) @ 6708 dps (6708 sdps)
------ Total: 717795 -- Hit: 717795
------ Attempts: 29 -- Hits: 29

10th ONE:
Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 115sec

Total
--- DMG: 817305 (100%) @ 7107 dps (7107 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 817305 (100%) @ 7107 dps (7107 sdps)
------ Total: 817305 -- Hit: 817305
------ Attempts: 31 -- Hits: 31

Average Raid situation DPS: 6951.6 DPS
Last edited by Lola on Tue May 11, 2010 12:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Lola
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#3 » Tue May 11, 2010 12:28 pm

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After discussion with Harney, I also post an approx 10 min fight which includes:
epic 2.0 clicky
2 min nuking - 1 epic 2.0 clicky after the 1st minute
epic 2.0 clicky
15 sec gather refresh (20K mana)
2 min nuking - 1 epic 2.0 clicky after the 1st minute
epic 2.0 clicky
***OOM & 3 min free clicky + Manaflare III (removing ro's flaming familiar) + 1 epic 2.0 clicky after the 1st minute and 2nd minute***
epic 2.0 clicky
15 sec gather refresh (20K mana)
2 min nuking - 1 epic 2.0 clicky after the 1st minute
epic 2.0 clicky
OOM & End of the fight.

Vlan on 11/05/2010 in 578sec

Total
--- DMG: 3056790 (100%) @ 5289 dps (5289 sdps)

Loly
--- DMG: 3056790 (100%) @ 5289 dps (5289 sdps)
------ Total: 3056790 -- Hit: 3056790
------ Attempts: 237 -- Hits: 237
Last edited by Lola on Tue May 11, 2010 12:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Lola
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#4 » Tue May 11, 2010 12:29 pm

In ooc, was displayed the huge amount that new 2.0 Wiz epic does.

Complete Destruction: 20 nuke fire based / 1 min recast

With bard & Ro's flaming familiar it does:
Normal 48K
Critic: 107K

Yes, huge figures.
But before crying for nerf, keep in mind that I included it in all my today's parses (more than 3 hours clicking!), I even start my cycles by clicking it.

So yes, if you clic it once, it is huge, keep in mind that we do not critic 100% and that all my parses include it.

Log files are avaiable if you want me to prove how I did my parses.
So If you do not have 3 hours left to parse and claim for nerf, don't claim for it.
Melees class, you will be able to prove your huge loss of Dps once Lillu will implement dummy NPC with higher AC which he will take care tonight.

Tyler,
Hope all of this will help you about Class balance (I am on holiday and can test during 3 hours today :) but right now, i need a break, I feel like playing a bard for 3 hours on live 10 years ago (I hate piano)

Last but not least, I will parse again once I get 2.0 on druid, new gift spell on shaman and also chanty illusion (already implemented or not?) so that you will have detailed & correct figures.

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Tyler
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#5 » Tue May 11, 2010 12:41 pm

Yup thanks - i edited your post and marked the imporant line red - hope you dont mind.

To summarize this for the TL;DR faction:

Average Self buff DPS: 6661.4 DPS
Average Raid situation DPS: 6951.6 DPS
10 Mins fight: 5289 DPS


Conclusion far from being overpowered. Although im a bit surprised to see only an increase of roughly 300 DPS when a bard is added.
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

Lola
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#6 » Tue May 11, 2010 1:08 pm

Tyler wrote:Conclusion far from being overpowered. Although im a bit surprised to see only an increase of roughly 300 DPS when a bard is added.


Due to 2 reasons:
1) Ancient: call of power isn't providing the correct +Dmg anymore since Ro's Flaming familiar has been upped to 30%. (It seems to be capped now)

From (to summarize all figure in one thread) - In that example I did not included BARD 2.0 EPIC CLIC, I just provided figures with ancient : call of power song:

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2627&start=30

Lola wrote:As you can see, The ancient call of power effect is not working correctly

Before Ro's flaming familiar improved to 30% without bard:
23K normal/ 51K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3K normal / 6K7 critic)

Before Ro's flaming familiar improved to 30% with bard:
24,5K normal/ 55K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3K225 normal / 7K215 critic)

After Ro's flaming familiar improved to 30% without bard:
24K1 normal/ 54K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3150 normal / 7050 critic)

After Ro's flaming familiar improved to 30% with bard:
24725 normal/ 55315K critic & 1 clicky (Writ of dragon kind 3225 normal / 7215 critic)

My clicky seems unaffected now by bard song
Chaotic detonation is smally improved by song


2) Chance with Critics: I was lucky on some self buff parse (even reached 7K9) while being unlucky on Raid situation buff parses (best is 7K8).

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Tyler
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#7 » Tue May 11, 2010 4:28 pm

I guess there is a cap, only one effect (increase spell damage) can be on you. Time for a new Bard Song in Ldon ;)
Item Change -> Reload needed
Spell Change -> Reload AND new Spellfile needed

moordian
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#8 » Tue May 11, 2010 7:23 pm

Tyler wrote:Average Self buff DPS: 6661.4 DPS
Average Raid situation DPS: 6951.6 DPS
10 Mins fight: 5289 DPS
Nice, that seems pretty reasonable to me in comparison to melee classes. I'd like to see some similar parses from monk/rogue so we can see where we stand now.
Moordian - Warrior
Valon - Cleric
Wandorfu - Monk
Armada - Rogue

Lola
Posts: 491

Re: Loly's Parses

Post#9 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:25 pm

Did not spend 3 hours to do the same but some to give you some input now Chaotic detonation has been nerfed.
Also, second part is what a wizard can get in terms of buff raids & Raid DPS.

I upgraded some stuff so #mystats: 23597 Mana and fight last 180+ sec before oom (was -120sec last time)

******
Sune's Buff buff (including devotion, i had the same included in 11th may series))+ Ro's flaming + True fire + engaging on Epic2.0 clicky / refresh after 1/2 min + switching 1 chaotic detonation / 1 Writ of dragonkind:


1st Try:
Vlar on 07/06/2010 in 177sec
Total
--- DMG: 1045350 (100%) @ 5906 dps (5906 sdps)
Hits: 44

2nd try:
Vlar on 07/06/2010 in 184sec

Total
--- DMG: 834150 (100%) @ 4533 dps (4533 sdps)
-- Hits: 44
WORST EVER! NO luck at all on critics! (good example!)

3rd try:
Vlar on 07/06/2010 in 192sec

Total
--- DMG: 946850 (100%) @ 4932 dps (4932 sdps)
--- Hits: 48

4th try:
Vlar on 07/06/2010 in 186sec

Total
--- DMG: 1017850 (100%) @ 5472 dps (5472 sdps)
-- Hits: 46

5th try:
Vlar on 07/06/2010 in 181sec

Loly
--- DMG: 877650 (100%) @ 4849 dps (4849 sdps)
-- Hits: 44

6th try:
Vlar on 08/06/2010 in 197sec

Total
--- DMG: 914350 (100%) @ 4641 dps (4641 sdps)
Hits: 48 -- Misses: 0

7th try:
Vlar on 08/06/2010 in 181sec

Total
--- DMG: 1050550 (100%) @ 5804 dps (5804 sdps)
--- Hits: 44

8th try:
Vlar on 08/06/2010 in 186sec

Total
--- DMG: 1150600 (100%) @ 6186 dps (6186 sdps)
--- Hits: 45 -- Misses: 0 -- Defended: 0 -- Accuracy: 100%

9th try:
Vlar on 08/06/2010 in 201sec

Total
--- DMG: 953350 (100%) @ 4743 dps (4743 sdps)
--- Hits: 48

10th try:
Vlar on 09/06/2010 in 179sec

Total
--- DMG: 932800 (100%) @ 5211 dps (5211 sdps)
-- Hits: 45

Average Self buff DPS: 5227.70 DPS
Chaotic detonation nerf speaks! I lost 1K4 dps
Last edited by Lola on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:06 pm, edited 6 times in total.

Lola
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Re: Loly's Parses

Post#10 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:26 pm

reserved for raid buff parses (With Chanty / Shamy / Bard / Druid / Cleric).

Purpose of those parses is to show what raid buffs can add for casters Dps, this is not only valid for Wizard but for all casters (I do not even imagine if songs/panther/chaotic blade bard clicky work on mage pets :).

I will detail exactly buffs / debuffs and explain why this is theory because of druid 2.0 is eaten by melee procs but against a dummy with no melee interference:

Vlad on 10/06/2010 in 196sec

Total
--- DMG: 2259583 (100%) @ 11528 dps (11528 sdps)
-- Hits: 90

I will update with much more parses to give an average dps.
Last edited by Lola on Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:49 am, edited 3 times in total.

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