Melee Aggro Issues

[yaeger]

With all these damage changes to melee, I've been having and harder and harder time keeping aggro from my rogue. The rogue is the only char I've been using that has consistently pulled aggro from my pally, even when the rogue is using just auto-attack during long fights.

I know the casters get aggro-reduction items. Epic 2.8, spell subtlety, donor augs, pets, concussion, etc. Is there a way for melee to have better methods of managing our aggro generation? Maybe make inherent methods (evade, improved aggro reduc T8 discs, concussion proc augs) better to help us keep our aggro in check while doing comparable dmg to equivalent casters?

Also, what is the ideal aug setup for tanks? Rogue and Pally Magelos are below.

Pally: http://195.5.177.21/webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Mott
Rogue : http://195.5.177.21/webtools/magelo/character.php?char=Aegos

[Stickybuds]

One issue i see is the only echo of anger focus i can find on your pally is from the ldon aug in your gloves, webtools/items.php?id=17729

There are higher rank echo of anger focus available for tanks that you can get from T7 and T8 and that should help. You can also upgrade this ldon aug to 1 rank higher anger focus with via the new sol ro tower zone.

Just do a clone search for item with focus effect echo of anger VII
edit - After reviewing your current gear setup and the options of items for pally I would suggest upgraded your ldon aug via sol ro tower.


Regards,
Sticky

[Stickybuds]

That said, I do think it would be nice to get some upgrades to some of the augs/weapons that proc concussion type spells and/or clickies or discs with a concussion type effect.

for example Letter of Forgotten Memories is a great aug - webtools/items.php?id=14401

but that lvl 37 concussion spell doesn't hold up in high tiers.

[Sian]

I'm very surprised that you can't get aggro over your rogue as a pally with that gear, even if your rogue is pretty well stuffed for dps too.
Are you spamming greaves and casting stuns and taunting whenever it's needed ?

Like Sticky said, you don't have many options :
1) Get a better echo of anger item via solro (but you can try if you can keep aggro over your rogue via equipping Vis range instead of donor range before trying to camp solro things).
2) Get Fevarn shield and either equip it (and switch donor shield to back) or put it in inventory.
3) Get donor aug on pally.

Or, if you play with MQ, make some macro with taunt/greaves/Fevarn shield spam and be ready to spam clickies.

My warrior, who has nothing but donor weapon and Vis range (check magelo) has no problem at all keeping aggro over DPS with a working macro of shield/taunt/small aggro disc that warrior has.

[Firenze]

Managing your aggro is a major part of the game sir. evade / let your paly build some solid aggro.

I personnaly hate when I can't over aggro the tanks, makes me feel worthless as usual

[Sian]

makes me feel worthless as usual

Sadly, that's the story of your life!!

[yaeger]

I haven't had any problems with my other toons pulling aggro, even my wizzy has to work at it. The sheer amount of hits, backstabs, and procs, even sometimes with just white damage, will pull aggro from my tank.

I do click legs, bash, pally stun, and taunt whenever necessary non-stop. But again, the rogue is the only char I've had a problem with aggro. The T8 aggro discs are nice to have, and help, but even with evade they aren't enough. They don't reduce nearly enough hate. Plus, it just feels weird that I can't go all out on bosses, even when the other classes get them down to 80% before attacking, ever.

I'll try those few upgrades, and will think about the donor aug. It feels like I'm missing something though.

[Sian]

The fevarn shield is really nice and should help you with this (there is hatchet shield that is less good too). If it doesn't and if you really think that you do your utmost on evading with rogue, then go for the donor aug, but it's really very surprising.
Good luck and thanks to let us know how things turn out

[Nathson2]

The fevarn shield is really nice and should help you with this

This, The shield has a 2 or 3 second cool down, stacked with your legs , and a higher echo of anger foci, and youll be fine. I have mine equipped in secondary and moved donor shield to back

[Stickybuds]

I have mine equipped in secondary and moved donor shield to back

I would recommend against this. Ares has much high AC, and AC from shields have no diminishing returns. You can always click the nadox shield from inventory.