[REQUEST] Arrow of Tactics

[Longfeathers]

After killing Rallos Zek tonight, it seems that my previous reported damages against Most Angry are the same for RZ. I tested out the bow/arrow for a minute, but then quickly switched back to my 2Hander that has +450 Zek bane damage, due to the enormous differences in damage output. It appears that in the end base damage is not affecting overall damage. The only thing that matters is bane damage. 60(arrow) < 250 (1hander) < 450 (2hander)

~Regards,
Longfeathers

[techspec6]

If a dps gamparse versus other classes will help, I can try to remember to parse the raid and post the results. Might give a broader picture. It wouldn't include others procs, so keep that in mind.

Warbeat

[Tyler]

Thanks for the feedback. Please post your results against Rallos so we have the full picture.

[Longfeathers]

For our first attempt against Rallos Zek we had 12 characters with bane damage weapons.
Buff wise in this situation I am using Rk2 sune + ranger donor clickies + Bard songs + Bard donor clickies + Druid 2.0 + Malosi/cripple stones + Druid donor BP.

Using the Arrow with Power of Fear combat ability, My hits we're at 17K
Using the Arrow with Fel Strike combat ability, My hits we're at 20K
We ended up failing the first attempt with Rallos Zek De-popping at 5% hp.

Next Attempt: Same raid setup/buffs.
Using the 2hander zek bane weapon with Power of Fear combat ability, My hits we're at 31K + I was double attacking and triple attacking.
Using the Arrow with Fel Strike combat ability, My hits we're at 38K + I was double attacking and triple attacking.

Rallos Zek went down.

Using the arrow (60 zek bane dmg) versus using the 2Hander (450 zek bane damage) my damage per second is about 1/3 of its possible total, maybe even closer to 2/7 of what is possible with the 2hander.

~Regards,
Longfeathers/Rahvan

[Longfeathers]

Tyler,

We're going to do RZ Wednesday night. If you need me to test with/without certain buffs/songs/combat abilities or anything at all. let me know, <Chiron> and I can make it happen.

~Regards,
Longfeathers/Rahvan

[Tyler]

If you could - I need the DPS for the Rallos fight. I mean a typical ranger would use Trushot etc to get his damage up.

So if possible, can i get a DPS comparison from people using the arrow compared to using bane swords?

It is very hard to judge how much further improvement is still needed based on a single hit.

[techspec6]

Okay, got some comparison numbers for ya Tyler.

Trollinguhard the warrior was dual weilding 1HB weapons and did 15.6k dps. He was 7th highest dps.
8th - Puffda (SK) with the 2hd hammer @ 13.3k dps
9th - Kallisto (Pally) with the 2hd hammer @ 11.8k dps
10th - Longfeathers (Ranger) with the Donor and bane arrow @ 10.2k dps
11th - Huahh (Cleric) with his clicky boom stick @ 9.5k dps
12th - Rahvan (SK) with his 2hd hammer @ 6.2k dps

Warbeat was 1st followed by 5 pets in 2nd-6th positions on dps.

Warbeat was dual weilding daggers. There are no bane swords. Longfeathers and Warbeat are similarly donored. Warbeat did 74.8k dps.

Warbeat

[Tyler]

Interesting, that SK does 2k more DPS than the PAL using the same weapon

To further increase this, i added the Tactical Blast Proc to the Arrow. Also, the Bane Damage will be going up from 60 to 90.

[techspec6]

Thanks Tyler. We'll test it again tomorrow and let you know what how the numbers change.

The pally is a 3rd alt and was slower to assist then her druid and mage. We don't use MQ2.

[techspec6]

Oh, just noticed that she ran 3 characters up to RZ and still beat Longfeathers in DPS... hahahahaha

-Warbeat