[Denied] Dark Diplomat

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Poll: Split Dark Buffs from VP Bps into two separate buffs?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:18 pm

Keep as is
25
66%
Change it
13
34%
Total votes: 38

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Rude
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[Denied] Dark Diplomat

Post#1 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:53 pm

Would you consider putting the illusion component of this buff in the short duration buff window so it can be clicked off/blocked? (similar to moon curse) It's such an awesome buff from the VP bp, but I hate running around with nothing but my sword/shield showing :P

Vaion
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#2 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:17 pm

Made a poll in the thread regarding the change. Winner takes all. Will run for 2 weeks starting today since a lot of people are out for holidays.
Oh the fun you all are going to have in DSK3...
Simon says.. touch the green one! Nooooo BLIQUE NOT THE RED ONE! zomg you just got me "Vaion Touched"!

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Rude
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#3 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:11 pm

TY :D

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Croco23
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#4 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:13 am

I completely agree. I stopped using it as I couldn't tell if my toon was standing, sitting, or FD from a mob proc.

Would love being able to click off the illusion part.

Tristhan
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#5 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:22 am

Rude wrote:Would you consider putting the illusion component of this buff in the short duration buff window so it can be clicked off/blocked? (similar to moon curse) It's such an awesome buff from the VP bp, but I hate running around with nothing but my sword/shield showing :P


May i ask what exactly the change will bring before i vote.

If i want the illusion part, will it take another full slot in the short buff window ?
If yes i am against the change, this would be a huge disavantage (loosing another short buff slot). In the end i would loose this cool illu because short buff is badly needed.

This illu is perfect to keep the overview over a greater army or with lots of toons during raid (you ever tried Marstro with tons of Ogres ... pointing at Sianette :mrgreen: ).

Another idea: make the effect (worn) and keep the illu clickable (normal buff window).
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Rude
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#6 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:47 am

Well the request I made was to put the illusion in the short buff window, similar to moon curse and necro t8 lich (which the illusion component of those buffs are frequently blocked/clicked off so players can click this solely for it's added mana pres.) Your idea is better, but I think it would be difficult to get the mana pres effect to stack with all other worn/focus effects? :( Plus that would only work if the BP is actually worn, and I retired it a bit ago :( Perhaps also add an AA that increases short duration buff slots? :)
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Tristhan
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#7 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:52 am

Rude wrote:Well the request I made was to put the illusion in the short buff window, similar to moon curse and necro t8 lich (which the illusion component of those buffs are frequently blocked/clicked off so players can click this solely for it's added mana pres.) Your idea is better, but I think it would be difficult to get the mana pres effect to stack with all other worn/focus effects? :( Plus that would only work if the BP is actually worn, and I retired it a bit ago :(


Short buff slots are heavy needed and already short.
And this illu is perfect to make many toons "invisible" and important toons better targetable, at least for me.

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Rude
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#8 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:56 am

I guess Vaion was right to make it a poll then :D I kind of like the illusion at times, but 90% of the time it just irritates me because toons that I occasionally need to click are partly invisible, I don't get to show off mah pretty velious armors, and if I need to click the illusion off on a toon that needs to be readily targetable they have to deal with the 10% mana loss.

I suppose it is a preference thing, with people on both sides of the debate.

Stickybuds
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#9 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:12 am

This item is a big part of my boxing setup. I would not like to see it changed. I have already had to sacrifice other buffs to make room in short buff window (and main buff window as well) and i would not like to see another buff split. I do not want this as a worn effect either, that would be terrible idea and I would rather see the bluff split than that happen please dont make it worn effect. This buff is very unique and the mana reduction effects are unique and stack. I continue to use this everyday all day even into T9 not just for the invis man illusion which i love on my box group but also for the mana cost reduction. Changing it to a worn would destroy the continued use of the item as there are much better upgrades. Splitting the buffs is putting strain on my already taxed buff bars.

I don't get whats the problem with the invis man illusion, i can tell np when my guys are ducked, FD, etc. Its just like the human illusion but no skin, the animations are all the same.

TL;DR pls pls pls dont change these items pppppplease!

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Rude
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Re: Dark Diplomat

Post#10 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:16 am

Increase short duration buff limit, imho :D

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