Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#11 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:24 pm

jkwon84 wrote:I really dislike the change because it widens the gap between donor and non donor chars, when I feel like it should go the other way. I know donor items are always supposed to be the best, but should they have gotten to this level? I've heard that the epic 3.0/3.5 are supposed to be t9/donor type items, and I'm hoping that creates some balance.


~7000dps between my necro and my mage. Necro has doner1 mage has nothing.
Kind of surprised by that, I remember campaigning to get the necro click fixed, last time I actually played the necro the doner click did nothing for pet dps, maybe added like 1k.

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#12 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:34 pm

Ditri wrote:Ok, I will offer a bit of a qualitative opinion. First of all, please keep in mind right now I'm playing "roughly" in proper progression. So, my necro has T2 gear, epic 1.5, etc etc. Next, I am killing mobs with my T2 toons.

So, basically when I look at that chart I see that the epic 1.5 pet is fairly close in stats to the t8 pet. I got the 1.5 epics before i was ever able to kill emperor in Ssra.

Meanwhile, what is the actual gap between a player's power from tier 1 or even tier 2 all the way to t8? In my experience thus far, raid tiers are significantly more difficult than the previous level. That's just from 1 level to the next -- but what about the gap from 3 tiers, 5 tiers, 8 tiers?! I can't even imagine how hard t8 must be; but I do know I would be shocked if I scribed a T8 pet while on a t8 raid and found it was only a marginal upgrade epic 1.5.

My t8 pet died to 4-5 exp mobs in Fungus Grove, how would it fair on a T8 raid?


Shrug. I'm merely not playing until this new content is put in ;) Nerfing my rk2 necro pet down to near 1.5 status is extreme. I'd be unable to kill anything in HoH.

As for your question, the difficulty jump between tiers isn't TOO huge. If you fully gear your crew in the tier you're on, you should have a fun time finishing the next tier. The tier progression is very well designed (though t5 is a little... weird... with avatars being tougher than xegony, but this is all a lil off topic :P) T8 trash is pretty darn easy. You can probably do that trash in t6 gear if you know the quirks of each type of mob. Though again, off topic, unless I misunderstood the question :P

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#13 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:40 pm

Rude wrote:
Shrug. I'm merely not playing until this new content is put in ;) Nerfing my rk2 necro pet down to near 1.5 status is extreme. I'd be unable to kill anything in HoH.


Time to group up.

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#14 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:43 pm

Lillu wrote:
Rude wrote:
Shrug. I'm merely not playing until this new content is put in ;) Nerfing my rk2 necro pet down to near 1.5 status is extreme. I'd be unable to kill anything in HoH.


Time to group up.


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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#15 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:54 pm

Grey wrote:~7000dps between my necro and my mage. Necro has doner1 mage has nothing.
Kind of surprised by that, I remember campaigning to get the necro click fixed, last time I actually played the necro the doner click did nothing for pet dps, maybe added like 1k.


I just did some 3 min dps parses on my necro.. ONLY donor 1.0 buff on

Donor pet + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 57,760dps

Void of Death RK III + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 13,527 dps
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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#16 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:02 pm

jkwon84 wrote:
Grey wrote:~7000dps between my necro and my mage. Necro has doner1 mage has nothing.
Kind of surprised by that, I remember campaigning to get the necro click fixed, last time I actually played the necro the doner click did nothing for pet dps, maybe added like 1k.


I just did some 3 min dps parses on my necro.. ONLY donor 1.0 buff on

Donor pet + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 57,760dps

Void of Death RK III + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 13,527 dps


Yeah, my Rk2 necro pet (rogue version with rk2 god toys), + dark minion, + donor 1.0 buff: ~11k DPS. Without donor buff, I'd imagine it'd be about 4k dps (didn't test it, and this was done on t1 dummy in GH)

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#17 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:13 pm

Lillu wrote:Time to group up.



I read this as "time to grow up" lol
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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#18 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:22 pm

jkwon84 wrote:
Lillu wrote:Time to group up.



I read this as "time to grow up" lol


Must be a coincidence... :lol:

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#19 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:34 pm

Lillu wrote:
jkwon84 wrote:
Lillu wrote:Time to group up.



I read this as "time to grow up" lol


Must be a coincidence... :lol:


lol :P Has nothing to do with grow up, I've just found my box (sk/clr/nec) is pretty darn useless until the new content is introduced. Seeing as how I *hate* feeling like a drain on my group/raid, I'm simply playing ES until the new content adjusting pets is done and finished with :P Nothing to do with being childish, it's just saddening to offer no DPS to my compatriots until things are adjusted. This "test" should've been implemented and tested on the test server, imho.

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Re: Necro pet tanking seems to have been hit as well

Post#20 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:43 am

Rude wrote:
jkwon84 wrote:
Grey wrote:~7000dps between my necro and my mage. Necro has doner1 mage has nothing.
Kind of surprised by that, I remember campaigning to get the necro click fixed, last time I actually played the necro the doner click did nothing for pet dps, maybe added like 1k.


I just did some 3 min dps parses on my necro.. ONLY donor 1.0 buff on

Donor pet + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 57,760dps

Void of Death RK III + wep aug + donor 1.0 buff: 13,527 dps


Yeah, my Rk2 necro pet (rogue version with rk2 god toys), + dark minion, + donor 1.0 buff: ~11k DPS. Without donor buff, I'd imagine it'd be about 4k dps (didn't test it, and this was done on t1 dummy in GH)


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