Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Anything wrong with them?
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#31 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:06 am

Cleric, Monk, and Rogue changes seem ok to me. The warrior one, not so much. I would rather have it stay as it is with a 5-10 reuse time. 6k or even 10k that drops in the middle of the fight is more of a detriment since your healers are suddenly going to have to contend with a 20%ish loss in total HP. Keep it at 3k, 330sec duration, 660sec recast.

Harney is dead on about regen as well. My new rogue is still gearing up and he still dies a lot to AE ramp with 2 lifetaps and 20kish HP. My monk was the same way until I got a full compliment of lifetaps and closer to 30khp. If anything, regen at tier 5/6 needs some serious upgrading because it is fairly useless in its current state.
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Tyler
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#32 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:54 am

We can play with the numbers of the War sword, already confirmed that 2 times ;)

Thx for the feedback regarding the other epics.
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Post#33 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:16 am

I'm against changing it from its current form for the sake of 'we need to make epics really powerful' - it's balanced the way it is, 3k isn't over the top, but it's consistent, and it's used at all times. That's, imo, what you want in an epic, it's not over the top, people don't only use warriors because of their epic 2 click, but it's always clicked when you're at raids. It is also one thing that set warriors apart from knights, and made warriors wanted even if a SK or PAL was tanking, the war could still permanently add 3k hp to a different tank

I feel the same way about the sk epic 2, and that epic you already cannot refresh instantly, its a 1 min duration 2 min reuse, and focus doesn't effect it
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Post#34 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:39 am

IF we leave the epic as it is now, i will remove the 3k heal from it.

We can increase the max hp from 3k to 4k in exchange. Duration will not stay at 8 mins and recast will be longer than its duration so you can't have this permanently.
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Post#35 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:59 pm

What is the motivation to changing the clicks from 8 mins to 1 min if I may ask?
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Post#36 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:18 pm

I explain it again.

Epics with a duration of 8 mins (+ bene foci) and recast of 1 min are a permanent buff. That's not epic, its overpowered.

The epic click effects are designed to boost your class situational, not permanently. You have a worn effect and proc on it, that's for the permanent effect.

You can discuss all night long that you are used to having an overpowered effect but that doesn't change that it will be changed! (pun intended).

Im trying to work out a viable solution, i posted a couple of suggestions. But please - I really don't want to read any more "But i like the old one better" posts.
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#37 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:20 pm

Harney wrote:I feel the same way about the sk epic 2, and that epic you already cannot refresh instantly, its a 1 min duration 2 min reuse, and focus doesn't effect it


As far as i am aware, i didn't reduce its usability but improved its duration or not?

Current Version:
Cast Time: 0.8 secs
Recast Time: 120 secs
Duration: 36 secs

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10 : Effect type : Increase Accuracy by 40%
11 : Effect type : Lifetap from Weapon Damage

Proposed Version:
Cast time: Instant
Recast Time: 180 secs
Duration 60 secs

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10 : Effect type : Increase Accuracy by 50%
11 : Effect type : Lifetap from Weapon Damage

Upgraded Accuracy by 25% and duration almost doubled.
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#38 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:26 pm

Gracias, I must have skipped over that explanation in another post.
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#39 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:27 pm

Or i was just thinking that i explained it in detail? We will never know!
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Re: Feedback for 2.0 Clicks Thread

Post#40 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:18 pm

I updated the War click.

Do people prefer that?
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