Vaion gets a kick out of the fact that i want to fly out to him IRl and kick him in the nuts for this.
but that being said i agree with a quest that is hard. T8 IS for the end game only, Vaions content has proven that for every 3 guilds that have tried ds only 1 seems to get anywhere consistently. His zones are designed to push everyone to their limits. And yes - they are NOT box friendly.
As far as access goes, im going to agree with Gunnar - focus on DS, you wont accomplish much if you cant kill xeru. Im not just saying that so we dont have competiton, to be honest i relish some LEGITIMATE competition. But im saying it to save frustration. The final fight for the Access quest makes Xeru look like trash in Kael. And all the testing thats been done in there has shown me that the trash in T8 is going to be more like the bosses in DS. Its not easy, wont ever be easy. Now i also think you shouldnt be able to access the zone until you have cleared DS, but that IS the elitist in me coming out. (and a topic of heated debate with vaion, so you guys who havent killed xeru should be thanking vaion for not letting us convince him of Xeru kill requirement).
At this point work on the quest, yeah its a bitch, and the spawn times suck, but its doable, took me 3 hours to get all i needed for my crew + 2/3 of what raydar needed for his crew. Just takes some grinding, enjoy it when you get there tho, cause it all just makes the reward 100000000 times better 8).
Best of luck to everyone seeking t8 access (ourselves included good god that fight is tough).